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ablebob



Joined: 30 Oct 2007
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Location: newfoundland

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: New to group Reply with quote

Hello.
I'm interested in getting into flying and have a few questions about flying a Kitfox in Canada.

First I was wondering if a model ii can be registered as an advanced ultralight in Canada or can it only be registered as a Basic ultralight?
The second question is about the Rotax 532. How many are currently in operation? What would be involved with replacing the engine a 532 with a 582 from a regulation standpoint?

thanks
Bob Stacey
Flatrock Newfoundland

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: New to group Reply with quote

You need a certificate of conformity to register as an AUL in Canada. Skystar is gone and no longer issuing them of course, and I doubt if the new Kitfox company has any interest in getting involved in that aspect of a design they never produced. I would guess that you may fly it as a BUL or if it has all the nescessary logs you might be succesful getting it registered as an amateur built. This is simply my understanding of the rules, your local bureaucrat may have a different one.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: New to group Reply with quote

Dave, you covered that pretty well.
Bob,

Now once big question is How is it registered now ? Is it Canadian or US registered or no at all?

532 Rotax is a good engine but you are better to swap for a 582 with dual ignition . I can let you know of costs to rebuild and /or replace engine and your options. I am in Ontario ,
email me dave AT cfisher.com


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: New to group Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: New to group Reply with quote

First things first.

Getting registered as AULA requires a letter of conformity (LOC) issued by the kit provider. At the time your plane was ordered Kitfox was produced, not built, by the Denney Aircraft Corp. and Mr. Denney would have to sign the LOC with today's date on it assuming Mr. Denney can/will inspect it today..... Mission impossible IV!!

Next point. Assuming you can move mountains with a glance... and get the LOC, then you have the problem of a twenty year old obsolete two stroke engine. Once registered AULA you can't make any changes. (period) So you will have to change the engine before going for the AULA. TC will not allow you to change anything structural on the plane after the LOC.

What's a guy to do?? Well you can register it BULA. On this next point I'm a bit foggy and no doubt if I'm wrong some one will jump in and straighten me out. I think there is a procedure that allows you to get your BULA inspected for passenger carrying. As I say I may be wrong. The guy to E-Mail is Garry Wolfe, He's the president of the Recreational Aircraft Association (RAA) in Canada. Check out their site for his E-Mail address. http://www.raa.ca

Finally you may still be able to register the plane as AB. This may be possible if it was registered AB previously.

At the moment I am sitting on a pile of paper work from TC for my mod III-A (closer to a model II)which I want to install a 912. Unfortunately for me, the original builder put the make, model and Hp of the engine on the data plate (most only say Rotax engine). The hoops I have to jump through now are to buy a factory mount, and finish the installation. Then, next summer I have to do a climb test, It has to climb as gross a minimum of 200'/min. Then I have the 25 hr. fly off. This winter and next spring/ summer will be busy. Basically what they want me to do is to re-register my plane with the new engine. You can be sure the new data plate will only have the minimum info on it. I can do the installation with a home brew mount but then I would have to have the plane inspected completely. The factory mount from Kitfox LLC will save me time, money and what little hair I have been able to hang on to.


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