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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Fellow Kolbers,



   At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this question;  What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your Kolb all around?  And is also very "affordable".



   A little background.......as some of you may remember, I recently moved to my present location, (going on a year now).  St. George is in the southwest corner of Utah.  The closest big city is Las Vegas.  Weather is beyond awesome, hills look exactly like Monument Valley, etc., etc.  The problem is the local airport just plain stinks!!

They are NOT experimental friendly.  The Airport Security chief is an a..hole, and frankly, I just don't like it.

They cater to propjets, bizjets, and mostly just factory iron.   Had I known how rotten the airport is, I wouldn't moved here in the first place.



  I miss the little airstrips like Northern Idaho had.  (I used to live there a few years ago.)   Every small town had a little asphalt strip, and there were lots of small towns.  Casual.  Beautiful scenery.   Lousy cold weather, though!!  No more cold long winters.



  Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I want to start looking for a great place to settle to.  I like a rural lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away.  Mild winters, with just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers.



  I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after.   Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc.

I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.)



But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (In or near Missouri)?  I like being involved in the local EAA chapters.  I think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the Alabama, Georgia,  & Arkansas region.  The weather is not too bad, I just don't know specifically where to look.



   I really do value your opinions.  Please be an advocate for why you like where you are, if you do.  I look forward to someday flying my Kolb MkIII to lots and lots of little airstrips, in a state that this provides.



               Thanks,     Mike Welch



PS.  Please, no northern states, guys.  Yes, I know, they're beautiful.  But too cold.  Been there, done that.

PSS.  I'm headed to Evergreen, Alabama this Friday.   My youngest son, on leave from Afghanistan, is getting married Saturday.  I get to look at Alabama on Sunday.  Yay!  (My distant relatives are from N. Alabama)

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rlaird

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 373
Location: Houston

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Fredricksburg, Texas....  fly year 'round, lots of great scenery (but no

close mountains).

On 10/30/07, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

[quote]

 

 Fellow Kolbers,



    At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this

 question;  What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your Kolb

 all around?  And is also very "affordable".



    A little background.......as some of you may remember, I recently moved

 to my present location, (going on a year now).  St. George is in the

 southwest corner of Utah.  The closest big city is Las Vegas.  Weather is

 beyond awesome, hills look exactly like Monument Valley, etc., etc.  The

 problem is the local airport just plain stinks!!

 They are NOT experimental friendly.  The Airport Security chief is an

 a..hole, and frankly, I just don't like it.

 They cater to propjets, bizjets, and mostly just factory iron.   Had I

 known how rotten the airport is, I wouldn't moved here in the first place

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Robert Laird
formerly: MkIIIc w/ 912ULS & Gyrobee
current: Autogyro Cavalon w/ 914ULS
Houston, TX area
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com

Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

North East Tennessee has an awful lot going for it. great scenery, mild 

winters, with one or three light snows, mild summers, temps mostly in the 

80's, low cost of living, no state income tax, but high sales taxes. 

Property is reasonable, and many (not all) small airports are light plane 

friendly. There is a lot of EAA activity around Knoxville, but Knowxville is 

a traffic nightmare. Morristown, Rogersville, Greenville and Mountain City 

all have EAA chapters. There are probably twenty five or more grass strips 

within an hour flying time of me, and I fly slow...



Richard Pike

MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

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Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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HShack(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

In a message dated 10/30/2007 10:12:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  At the huge risk of getting all kinds of crap, I'd like to ask this question;  What state is just plain wonderful to live in, and fly your Kolb all around?  And is also very "affordable". 	


  

 How about SC?  Check out www.trentonflyers.com.



  

 Howard Shackleford

FS II

SC

NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Mike



1st there is no ideal place. Its either too hot or too cold part of the year 

no matter where you live. I live in Michigan in the summer and Florida in 

the winter. Michigan has water everywhere. Everything is green all summer 

and good flying weather. There are hundreds of LSA and ultralight strips. 

Property prices are about the lowest in the nation. Florida is about the 

same in the winter and property prices are better now. So there you have it. 

Buy a mansion in Michigan for a song and a small place in Florida for the 

winter. The total cost will be about the same as one place in other parts of 

the country.



Oh yes I'll be selling my place near Lansing, MI with a 1400 ft private 

strip and hanger in a year or so. Perfect Kolb strip and hanger. Make me an 

offer.



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW powered MKIIIC

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aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Welcome to NewZealand. Sounds like you would like it here. Only places that 

they get a bit touchy is flying into

international airports. For some reason they like you to announce your 

intended arrival time and carry a radio ?

Our aircraft all have ZK numbers a bit like your N numbers but the license 

has not gone to the sports aviation license as yours has .Some day those 

that dislike our little planes will come to understand that the only enemy 

is gravity.Fly where you will and enjoy, their problems and hang ups are not 

yours to ponder over.

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		  From a fellow Kolb MK111 flyer from down under

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1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

low humidity, 



<snip>



Mike,



That little note rules out Al, GA., MS, LA, and FL.  We say it isn't TOO

humid till you have to cut the air with a knife to walk through it...man

I hate the humidity...it makes a balmy 103 degree July seem like

115...(really...not kidding...)



Jeremy

jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Mike, I voted with my feet and moved from the Seattle area to SE Kansas. Lots of emergency landing fields, fairly low cost of living, and a decent climate. If you want scenery, wellllll.......



Rick



 On 10/31/07, Jeremy Casey <1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us (1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us)> wrote:[quote] --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us (1planeguy(at)kilocharlie.us)>



low humidity,



<snip>



Mike,



That little note rules out Al, GA., MS, LA, and FL.  We say it isn't TOO 



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jb92563

Joined: 23 Mar 2007
Posts: 314
Location: Southern California

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

How about California?



340+ flyable days a year, 

Choose your temperature by your elevation, and location



Dryer warmer south and moister/colder north.



Pick your scenery, Yosemite Park, Mojave Deserts, Big Redwoods, Salt Lakes, Mountains, Pacific Ocean what ever tickles your fancy or just see it all in a day or two flying adventure any time of the year.



Plenty of wide open spaces and places to live.



I was just looking at an airpark community at Lake Riverside, in Riverside county, California.  About $80,000 for a lot with airport rights etc.



Like they say in California, if you don't like the weather where you are drive for 1/2 hour and the weather could be entirely different.



You can land where ever you want, just have the right equipment for the airspace and do your normal pilot communication stuff.



Many private fields don't even use radio.



I've been to some of the places you mentioned and frankly wonder how many pilots land in trees every year.....some places seem to have no landable fields with range. I suppose in reality its not as bad as it looks and theres always roads to land on, but first impression seems densely forrested.

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planecrazzzy
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

I'm originally from Calif ( Bay Area )  Mediterranean Climate....



But it's gotten pretty crowded there....



Myself , I'd lean towards Oregon....Probably around Eugene....



My .02 cents....

.

.

Mike & "Jaz" in MN  



 Minne - sota Land really sucks  , Winters too long & too cold

Summers are too hot & too humid...

russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Best place to fly, IMHO, would not be in  New England. Lots trees, in the south too many bloody big houses, city gov's that rule against such things, etc etc. Northern is much better but cold in the winter, clouds, fog, and still all those trees! I like New England, don't get me wrong; but the short-sightedness of the people drives me nuts. Stick-in-the-mud thinking, that is. I plan to move, but what I want is (note: "want", not expect to find)



A place where flying is welcomed

grass strip closeby

snow mountain for skiing

coral reef for skindiving

salt water for sailing

maybe 50' pistol range in the backyard; I have that now



Understandably, I'm still looking. may have to revamp my parameters!!

I find it interesting to read all the responses.

good luck to us all,

Russ in CT

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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

I would say You are looking for a high,dry  warm,cool, clear, climate,where every body is nice, the days  are long and  the air is sweet It's called Disneyworld...or, even better , maybe If , and I  stress the "IF', you could get Alice to to step out of WonderLand, you could  step IN.I don't think she(Alice) would go for the 50' pistol range, but maybe  with the right approach she would let you have  1-1/2 rifle rangeand  buy  you a new Barrett-50 to test out Wouldn't that be better than a old  50' pistol range??        Joe  N101HD                                                                                                                                                     DO not art.

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rlaird

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 373
Location: Houston

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

On 10/31/07, Southern Reflections <purplemoon99(at)bellsouth.net (purplemoon99(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		           I would say You are looking for a high,dry  warm,cool, clear, climate,where every body is nice, the days  are long and  the air is sweet 



	


You forgot:  calm winds, low density altitude, no thermals, higher percentage of O2 in the air, and alto-cirrus blocking the sun in the early morning and late afternoons. 



  -- R



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formerly: MkIIIc w/ 912ULS & Gyrobee
current: Autogyro Cavalon w/ 914ULS
Houston, TX area
http://www.Texas-Flyer.com

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

R,between the two of us we may set this lad in the  proper direction to relocate.....Joe  N101HD                                                                                                                                                         do not art.

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jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

At 07:11 PM 10/30/07 -0700, you wrote:

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d>  Since I am planning on retiring as soon as possible (maybe 3-4 years), I want to start looking for a great place to settle to.  I like a rural lifestyle with a reasonably big city not too far away.  Mild winters, with just a touch of snow, low humidity, and lots of lakes and rivers.
	


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  I don't know much about Missouri, but it looks like what I'm after.   Lots of green stuff, rolling hills, rivers, etc.

I'm really thinking of buying 10-15 acres and having my own runway, if allowed. (I'm a former general contractor.)



But, do any of you Kolb guys know anything about the airports and such (In or near Missouri)?  I like being involved in the local EAA chapters.  I think I've pretty much settled on Missouri, but I wonder about the Alabama, Georgia,  & Arkansas region.  The weather is not too bad, I just don't know specifically where to look.




	


Mike,



I lived in south eastern Missouri for about ten years.  I hangared at 

Perryville (K02).  I lived close to Jackson.  K02 is located in the 

Mississippi River bottom.  There is a multitude of airports close by in 

Missouri and Illinois.  I belonged the EAA Chapter 453, located at Painton, 

MO.  It was a very active chapter, and it met at 2 PM on the third Sunday of 

the month.  The chapter club house is located at a grass strip next to 

Painton, so it was possible to fly to the meetings.  All kinds of terrain 

within a fifty mile radius.



Cost of living is reasonable, with mild winters.  Lots of sunshine all year 

around.  The only  weather down side is an occasional tornado.



So, why am I retired and living in eastern Indiana?  A grand daughter.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN



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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Joe (& others?)

Of course I'm looking for Disneyland, or someplace that doesn't exist -- but I can  dreamThe Barrett-50 wouldn't do too good on my range, and tho I've got the neighbors used to .22, .38 and 9mm I don't think they'd like the .50

Not my type of gun anyway. Now the Taurus   'Judge' --



don't arch

50 much. On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Southern Reflections wrote:

[quote] I would say You are looking for a high,dry warm,cool, clear, climate,where every body is nice, the days  are long and the air is sweet It's called Disneyworld...or, even better , maybe If , and I  stress the "IF', you could get Alice to to step out of WonderLand, you could step IN.I don't think she(Alice) would go for the 50' pistol range, but maybe with the right approach she would let you have  1-1/2 rifle rangeand buy  you a new Barrett-50 to test out Wouldn't that be better than a old 50' pistol range??        Joe N101HD                                                                                                                                                     DO not art.

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Dave Bigelow

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 103
Location: Kamuela, Hawaii

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

The climate you are looking for exists at elevations above 2500 feet on the western side of the Island of Hawaii.  However, the rest......?

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Rex Rodebush

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 209
Location: Branson West area, Missouri

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Next year we're retiring and moving from Ohio to the Missouri Ozarks, about 15-20 miles West of Branson.  I grew up in that area and it has everything we want.  Just visit different areas on your vacations and check them out.



Rex Rodebush

Building a Mark III X-tra

russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: Great place for Kolbs...odd request.

Dave

Thanx advice. Been there, and it is great. But still a long walk to  

the sea, and where is the ski-lift? Kona is great too.

(Don't want much, do I?)

Russ

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On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:14 AM, Dave Bigelow wrote:



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 The climate you are looking for exists at elevations above 2500  

 feet on the western side of the Island of Hawaii.  However, the  

 rest......?



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 Dave Bigelow

 Kamuela, Hawaii

 FS2, HKS 700E





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