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Kcozik(at)cablespeed.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: First video attempt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtyMeRy0h8A

 Close to 20 hrs on my kitfox now.  Seems to  fly great and I'm having a ball.  I'll try to post some pictures soon as  well as more video.  This is my first attempt.

 Kevin Cozik

 kitfox 6-7

 914 turbo

 Czech amphibs

 Lansing MI

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Kcozik(at)cablespeed.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: First video attempt

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avidfox

Joined: 03 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: First video attempt

Looks great!  Gonna need skis soon.   : )

  

 Steve

 Kitfox 5  912UL

 Milford, Mi

 Hangered (at) Howell  OZW



 

 On 10/31/07, Kevin Cozik <Kcozik(at)cablespeed.com (Kcozik(at)cablespeed.com)> wrote: [quote]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtyMeRy0h8A

 Close to 20 hrs on my kitfox now.  Seems to fly great and I'm having a ball.  I'll try to post some pictures soon as well as more video.  This is my first attempt.

 Kevin Cozik

 kitfox 6-7

 914 turbo

 Czech amphibs

 Lansing MI

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fredshiple(at)sbcglobal.n
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: First video attempt

darinh

Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 327
Location: Utah

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: First video attempt

Kevin,



Looks awesome!  I received my 914 last Friday and your video makes me wish mine was flying right now!

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Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah

dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: Re: First video attempt

Sounds and looks great !!

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: First video attempt

I like the way your plane  floats nice and high!  Judging by the way it is sitting in the water the CG  looks as far forward as you would want with no weight in it.  ( perfect  )

  

 During the summer months I  install, with Coraseal, a 2" I.D. pvc tube on the struts on the pilots  side....  A fellow got to have a place to put his fishing rod without all  that setting up and breaking down.  I just slide the rod in the tube from  the front and wind holds it in place.

  

 Noel

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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

av8rps(at)tznet.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: First video attempt

Awesome job Kevin!!!  A very nice looking  floatplane!

  

 Paul Seehafer

 Central Wisconsin

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kcozik(at)cablespeed.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: First video attempt

Judging by the way it is sitting in the water the CG 

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The CG seems to be good for flight per weight and balance but when I'm on the water I sometimes get water 

splashing over the bows.  Not sure if the bow wave is unusually large because of the open cavity for the 

nose gear or what.  This winter I will move the floats ahead 2"-3" and see if that helps.  That should put 

my cg right at the forward edge with 170 lbs pilot, everything added from there moves the cg rearward.



Thanks for everyones kind comments.

Kevin Cozik

Kitfox 6-7

914 turbo

Czech amphibs

Lansing MI

 

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greg(at)case-assembly.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: First video attempt

Great looks airplane Kevin.  

   

What model Czech floats are those?  

Can you share more photo’s of the floats with us?  

   

Thanks  

greg  

         

  

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Cozik

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Close to 20 hrs on my kitfox now.  Seems to fly great and I'm having a ball.  I'll try to post some pictures soon as well as more video.  This is my first attempt.  

    

Kevin Cozik  

    

kitfox 6-7  

    

914 turbo  

    

Czech amphibs  

    

Lansing MI  

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: First video attempt

Before moving the floats forward try flying close  to gross.....  When you move the floats forward you may find the slow speed  envelope may not be as good as it is now.  Keeping the nose up for landing  may become a bit more difficult.



 

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 Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern

 Campbellton, Newfoundland, 

 Canada

 Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA

 Aerocet 1100s

 noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)

 

 

 

 

 



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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

kcozik(at)cablespeed.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: First video attempt

Thanks for the input Noel but adding weight to get near gross moves my cg rearward.  

Wouldn't it make more sense to fly it at the other end of the envelope (light)?   The 

other option I would have would be to install the series 7 elevator which would also 

allow me to move the cg further forward.  Is my thinking backwards?  I'll be honest, I 

didn't graduate in the top 20% in my class!

Kevin

Series 6-7

Turbo 914

Czech 1650 amphib floats

Lansing MI

On Thu Nov  1 12:26 , 'Noel Loveys' <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca> sent:



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Before moving the floats forward try flying close 

to gross.....  When you move the floats forward you may find the slow speed 

envelope may not be as good as it is now.  Keeping the nose up for landing 

may become a bit more difficult.

 



Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern

Campbellton, Newfoundland, 

Canada

Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA

Aerocet 1100s

noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca





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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: First video attempt

I'm Assuming that at gross weight your airplane is still well within CG

limits as it is now.



In my model III-A the CG moves back the same as your plane.  The more gas I

put in, the more weight in the seats, the more weight in the floats and the

more weight in the storage compartment the further back the CG moves.  My

plane seems to land pretty well 50 to 100 lb below gross.  And when I get

close to empty tanks it still has plenty of elevator authority to do nice

landings (straight floats).



I figured I should mention it to you because I have noticed on the forum

several posts about not enough nose up authority to land tail wheel first (

very nose high) in some aircraft.



Noel



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Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

Kcozik(at)cablespeed.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: First video attempt

Thanks Greg,   They are model  1650A's.  Not very common on Kitfox models I assume it is because of the  weight, about 320 lbs.  I'll have the airplane on my beach all weekend so  pictures should be coming soon!

 Kevin

 Series 6-7

 914 Turbo

 Czech amphibs

 Lansing MI

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: First video attempt

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		  adding weight to get near gross moves my cg rearward. 

Wouldn't it make more sense to fly it at the other end of the envelope (light) 	




Kevin, I have been test flying my Classic 4 with the CG near the forward limit.  I must admit that my landings with the CG  foreword have not been great.  The tail does not come down well when I flare to touch down.



Any weight  added moves the CG back and the past few flights I have secured sand bags in the baggage and in the passenger seat.  I was amazed at how well it three pointed with the CG just a little over one inch further back.



Be aware that I first first tried a few stalls with and without flaps at altitude so I would know what to expect.  I like my Kitfox more each time I fly it!

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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Kcozik(at)cablespeed.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: First video attempt

I have had no issues with elevator authority so far and have also been 

experimenting with different configurations and speeds at altitude.  There 

have been a few comments on the list regarding the inability to get the tail 

down on landing and I believe some have solved this with gap seals and/or 

micro vg's on the tail.  Mine has not flown without the floats and probably 

will not.  If I could find a good deal on a partially completed 

project.....0290.....bushwheels......You are correct in pointing out the 

fact that our Kitfoxes are more fun with each flight.

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kitfoxjunky(at)decisionla
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: First video attempt

With a 914, your plane is somewhat unique.  One thing about my Aerocets 1100's is that the plane feels under floated.  Others have made the same comment.  That is probably why there is so much interest on the forum in your setup. We are always looking at alternatives.   

 

 

Gary Walsh

 KF IV  Anphib 912S

 C-GOOT

 www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox

 

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Kcozik(at)cablespeed.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: First video attempt

I'll be happy to answer any questions I can.   If you go to the sportflight.com site, you can see my previous kitfox on  aerocets amphibs.  I believe Paul S. listed it under misc.  It is a  model IV with a 912.  White with red and silver stripes.  It now lives  in North Dakota.

 Kevin Cozik

 Series 6-7

 Turbo 914

 Czech amphib floats

 Lansing MI

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: First video attempt

Gary did you notice how high  his plane seemed to float empty?  The sterns of the floats were completely  out of the water.  Looks like a lot more floatation than the  Aerocets

  

 Noel

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