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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: WTB Crystal Radio Reply with quote

At 08:34 PM 10/4/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Quote:
I know this is an odd request, however, I am a high school electronics
teacher by day and a plane builder by night :>) I thought this might be
a good place to ask if any of you electronics tinkerers might
have crystal radio sets jammed into the back of a closet that you would
like to get rid of. I am trying to round up about 50 of them or the
components. The difficult part to find in quantity is the variable air
capacitors (365pfd or close). My e-mail is
dan at azshowersolutions dot com
Thanks,
I live in Mesa, AZ
Dan


Dan, I'm working on a basic electronics course
that will start with some hands-on activities
that not only explore the simple-ideas of physics
but the practical hands-on ideas for fabrication.

I've discovered a company at

http://tubesandmore.com/

who offers some interesting products:

The B-851 book entitled "The Voice of the Crystal"
by Friedrichs. It offers ways to make things work
without going to the electronics parts store.

The other item of interest is a surplus
C-VW4450 6-gang air variable designed for specific
application in an AM/FM radio. The TOTAL capacitance
of sections combined is about 430 pF. Single
unit price is $2.95 but they say they have a
LOT of them. I've ordered 10 pcs and will let
you know how they look. You might be able to
negotiate a better price for quantities. Best
yet, it has a geared down drive shaft built in.
REALLY good value for the performance. The
smaller sections might figure in a crystal set
or one-tube design for short wave.

Also, take a peek at C-VT250 compression trimmer
that goes up to 250 pF. This is small and would
cover a major portion of the BC band. One could
include a switch that kicks in an extra 100pf
for the bottom end.

Finally, take a peek at item 330181321066
on Ebay. I have one of these and the workmanship
is superb. I'm going to use it in a classroom demo
for both crystal sets and a one-tube radio.

It wouldn't surprise me if the book cited above
doesn't talk about spider-web coil winding. You
can find Litz wire on ebay and other sources.
You could build a form for duplicating the
craftsmanship offered by the ebay guy.

Bob . . .
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( "Problems are the price of progress. )
( Don't bring me anything but trouble. )
( Good news weakens me." )
( -Charles F. Kettering- )
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: WTB Crystal Radio Reply with quote

Robert, Thanks a bunch for the info...I ordered the book you mentioned as it looks like a kick to try and make our own stuff. The kids are currently finishing up their first attempts at crystal radios. Thanks to Ed Larson here on the list they have variablle caps to tie in. He sent me a whole box of various sizes. We were out today on the football field and found 4 radios that worked...quite faint...but it was enough to get them worked up. We are going to build a one or two transistor amp to add to them. That will get them into making a PCB. Thanks again, Dan Billingsley
Building a Kitfox-IV
http://www.azshowersolutions.com/Build1.html

"Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net> wrote:
[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"

At 08:34 PM 10/4/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Quote:
I know this is an odd request, however, I am a high school electronics
teacher by day and a plane builder by night :>) I thought this might be
a good place to ask if any of you electronics tinkerers might
have crystal radio sets jammed into the back of a closet that you would
like to get rid of. I am trying to round up about 50 of them or the
components. The difficult part to find in quantity is the variable air
capacitors (365pfd or close). My e-mail is
dan at azshowersolutions dot com
Thanks,
I live in Mesa, AZ
Dan


Dan, I'm working on a basic electronics course
that will start with some hands-on activities
that not only explore the simple-ideas of physics
but the practical hands-on ideas for fabrication.

I've discovered a company at

http://tubesandmore.com/

who offers some interesting products:

The B-851 book entitled "The Voice of the Crystal"
by Friedrichs. It offers ways to make things work
without going to the electronics parts store.

The other item of interest is a surplus
C-VW4450 6-gang air variable designed for specific
application in an AM/FM radio. The TOTAL capacitance
of sections combined is about 430 pF. Single
unit price is $2.95 but they say they have a
LOT of them. I've ordered 10 pcs and will let
you know how they look. You might be able to
negotiate a better price for quantities. Best
yet, it has a geared down drive shaft built in.
REALLY good value for the performance. The
smaller sections might figure in a crystal set
or one-tube design for short wave.

Also, take a peek at C-VT250 compression trimmer
that goes up to 250 pF. This is small and would
cover a major portion of the BC band. One could
include a switch that kicks in an extra 100pf
for [quote][b]


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: WTB Crystal Radio Reply with quote

At 07:05 PM 11/1/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Quote:
Robert, Thanks a bunch for the info...I ordered the book you mentioned as
it looks like a kick to try and make our own stuff. The kids are currently
finishing up their first attempts at crystal radios. Thanks to Ed Larson
here on the list they have variablle caps to tie in. He sent me a whole
box of various sizes. We were out today on the football field and found 4
radios that worked...quite faint...but it was enough to get them worked
up. We are going to build a one or two transistor amp to add to them. That
will get them into making a PCB. Thanks again, Dan Billingsley
Building a Kitfox-IV
<http://www.azshowersolutions.com/Build1.html>http://www.azshowersolutions.com/Build1.html


I've ordered one too. I've been 'building' since
the 4th grade when I listened to Ike's election
returns on the first crystal set I built from
a kit.

I've nearly always lived near Wichita's 5KW
AM station . . . easy to get strong signals,
hard to get anyone else. I've inherited a house
from my father in Medicine Lodge, KS . . . lots
of miles from any AM BC station. I've become
interested in seeing what can be heard from afar
with a reasonable antenna system and high
Q tuning.

I purchased some 6418 vacuum tubes . . . See:

http://www.schmarder.com/radios/tube/6418.htm

I'm in the process of packaging the 6418
circuitry into one of my standard product
packages. See:

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Products/A15_Package.jpg

Everything but batteries, regen pot, tuning
caps and inductors will be in this package.
The BIG variability in performance is configuration
of tuning sections/antenna. I thought it would
be useful to have the constants packaged in
a robust module that allows fast,
low-risk assembly of the variables.
If you'd like one of these modules
to play with, I'll send you one when
they're done.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: WTB Crystal Radio Reply with quote

Robert,
Sounds like you were hooked at quite a young age. Something about the radio sets that is still magic to me...easy to get the high school kids fired up.
The site for Dave's Radios looks good. Have you built one of them using the 6418 tube? I would certainly like to try out your module when they are finished.
Thanks again,
Dan
11434 E Portal Ave
Mesa, AZ 85212

"Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)cox.net> wrote:
[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"

At 07:05 PM 11/1/2007 -0700, you wrote:

Quote:
Robert, Thanks a bunch for the info...I ordered the book you mentioned as
it looks like a kick to try and make our own stuff. The kids are currently
finishing up their first attempts at crystal radios. Thanks to Ed Larson
here on the list they have variablle caps to tie in. He sent me a whole
box of various sizes. We were out today on the football field and found 4
radios that worked...quite faint...but it was enough to get them worked
up. We are going to build a one or two transistor amp to add to them. That
will get them into making a PCB. Thanks again, Dan Billingsley
Building a Kitfox-IV
http://www.azshowersolutions.com/Build1.html


I've ordered one too. I've been 'building' since
the 4th grade when I listened to Ike's election
returns on the first crystal set I built from
a kit.

I've nearly always lived near Wichita's 5KW
AM station . . . easy to get strong signals,
hard to get anyone else. I've inherited a house
from my father in Medicine Lodge, KS . . . lots
of miles from any AM BC station. I've [quote][b]


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: WTB Crystal Radio Reply with quote

You guys...Darned I've spent half a day Googling Xtal sets.

A MUST SEE: http://www.wynterarchtops.com/radios/index.htm

I hate to see anyone build a crystal set and cheap-out by buying the variable capacitor. There's no magic in capacitors. A roll of foil and some scissors will make one in a pinch. There is a long history of capacitors in strange forms. And if it doesn't have a cat's whisker and a galena crystal....shame on you.

One of my pet projects (after I finish the Glastar....) is to build crytal sets along the lines of a Captain Nemo fantasy. It is entirely possible to build a an AM radio receiver using nothing you couldn't buy in AD 1200.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: WTB Crystal Radio Reply with quote

Eric, Tom has some interesting stuff going on with his projects.
Dan

"Eric M. Jones" <emjones(at)charter.net> wrote:
[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones"

You guys...Darned I've spent half a day Googling Xtal sets.

A MUST SEE: http://www.wynterarchtops.com/radios/index.htm

I hate to see anyone build a crystal set and cheap-out by buying the variable capacitor. There's no magic in capacitors. A roll of foil and some scissors will make one in a pinch. There is a long history of capacitors in strange forms. And if it doesn't have a cat's whisker and a galena crystal....shame on you.

One of my pet projects (after I finish the Glastar....) is to build crytal sets along the lines of a Captain Nemo fantasy. It is entirely possible to build a an AM radio receiver [quote][b]


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