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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Unpleasantness Reply with quote

List;

I've been amember of this list for a number of years now. There have been
many reasons that I have enjoyed the information, education & entertainment
of the members here. Part of my warm regard for the list has always been
in the things others have accomplished & the methods that they have used
to overcome the trials and challenges of building their own aircraft. Or efforts
to modify one constructed by someone else.

Recently, I have seen a change in the list. I have realized that I no longer am
anxious to get to the computer & see the latest offerings from members, due
in part, to the unexpected, unfounded, often uncalled-for, rantings & attacks to
several members.

I realize that I am mearly a "lurker" & that I have never owned a Kolb (this was
not by choice, I assure you). I have, however, flown a couple, & even had the
distinct honor of flying the late Mr. Dave Pelletier's Firestar on a couple days.
These things will alwasy remain as milestones to me. Memories of the good days, & the great friendships that can be developed in this sport.

The reason I am writing this, is that I do not need the silly, antagonistic, hatred
& flaming that has become the dominant theme on this list. Therefore, I will
be removing myself from the list. I will miss the true heartfelt encouragement
that has come from here, as well as the educational experiences of those of
the list that have given so much of themselves. Not just the negative things,
like accidents & (to quote some) stupid decisions & such, but, even to the
point of providing thrue humor & laughter at themselves & us all.

I had hoped I could last until the next Monument Valley UnOfficial Fly-In,
because I had purchased an aircraft that I had wanted to use there & meet
all the folks that I've come to know through this list. Who knows, maybe I'll
be able to make it anyway.

For all the engine info, I can't thank you all enough. My wishes to you all, are
that you have nothing but Blue Skies & Soft Landings, exactly where you want
them to be.

George Bass

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Unpleasantness Reply with quote

George,

Its the nature of online discussions that things can be easily misconstrued, but like you, I have noticed that there are some members here that seem to feel it is necessary to insult and degrade someone for having an opinion that does not match their own.

From the safety of their own PC they feel it safe to lash out at others in a way that they could not get away with in person.

I feel sorry for these folks as they must be having a horrible day, or week or life, but at the same time I understand that everyone has these days at times.

One fellow here recently lost his newly built labor of love to the divorce settlement.....so I certainly understand it if he blows off some steam here.....which he has not.

Just don't participate in those threads like changing the channel when the nightly news is just to gruesome.

Sorry to see you go, come back after a hiatus, perhaps our paths will cross some day as the Monument Valley trip is becoming a very tantalizing attraction for many members here.

Your name sounds familiar....did you ever own a Moni?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Unpleasantness Reply with quote

George, It's a shame that you are going to remove your self from the list because of a little unplesantness. It appears that you enjoy the list,and you get alot out of it. now that you 've got a plane, it would seem to me that this would be the best time for you to stay on the list. If you see something that you don't like, or something that offends you ,hit the deleat button . Enjoy your life,your plane, and your friends on the list. that my 2 cents worth hope you reconsider.. Joe N101HD 601XL/RAM
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Unpleasantness Reply with quote

I have seen people send such unpleasant postings to the moderator. He can delete anyone from the list and not even tell anyone. they don't even need to be directed at yourself . sometimes it feels good to stick up for someone. mal


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Unpleasantness Reply with quote

Recently, I have seen a change in the list. >>

George,
dont go. You are quite right there has been a change in tone on the list recently and it is to be deplored. However these things come and go on every list. Some people are just adversarial by nature and their replies always seem to be couched in stronger terms than necessary. It isn`t worth foregoing all the the years of friendliness and help that are the norm just because one or two listers seem to have a burr under their saddle.
Just ignore it, hit the delete and wait a while . Things will settle down .Besides, we can`t afford to lose the nice guys.

Cheers

Pat
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Unpleasantness Reply with quote

In a message dated 11/8/2007 11:55:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com writes:
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George,
dont go. You are quite right there has been a change in tone on the list recently and it is to be deplored. However these things come and go on every list. Some people are just adversarial by nature and their replies always seem to be couched in stronger terms than necessary. It isn`t worth foregoing all the the years of friendliness and help that are the norm just because one or two listers seem to have a burr under their saddle.
Just ignore it, hit the delete and wait a while . Things will settle down .Besides, we can`t afford to lose the nice guys.

Cheers

Pat


I,m one of the good guys, but don't talk much....kinda typical of a good guy actually....[img]http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201e05bf2/02[/img]

George Randolph
Firestar driver from Florida

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Unpleasantness Reply with quote

George

Please don't go. I have been bad and I promise to be better.

How about hearing from the Non Rotax folks out there. Is anybody flying anything new?

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