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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Upper gear leg fairing attach? Reply with quote

hey all -

perhaps a dumb question. big surprise. can someone enlighten me as to the method of attach of the upper gear leg fairing? The plans say screw #6 1/2 SS SMS 3 places, and AN509-8R8 K1000-08 AN426AD3-3.5 (1place). I found stainless screws in the kit, but i'm thinking they're not the right ones. and what about nutplates for those 3 places? I don't get it. I thought that this must've confounded others, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. when i look inside the aircraft where these screws are supposed to go, it's not immediately apparent to me how it goes together. Are these "SMS" screws special? does "SMS" stand for "Super Magic Screw"?

one additional question... does anyone think it would be a problem to do the upper gear leg intersections later, and with weight on the wheels? the fairings sent to me by Vans for this area more closely resemble lasagna noodles than fairings, and i thought i might buy new ones from Fairings Etc. The problem is, that would take more time, and I'm trying to get these #(at)$!%!! fairings done so i can hang the engine! I kind of feel like I'm eating all my broccoli so I can get dessert. thoughts?

cj
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Upper gear leg fairing attach? Reply with quote

Maybe "Sheet Metal Screw", the pointy kind. The screws that hold the upper
intersection fairing are not machine screws. If I remember correctly, you
just drill a hole an screw in a sheet metal screw to hold it on.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Upper gear leg fairing attach? Reply with quote

I agree with Jesse. Those are sheet metal type. I didn't particularly like
the arrangement of the screws holding the fairings in place. I remember
spending a lot of time trying to figure out what were on the other side of
the skins where I was about to drill the holes. I drew the lines and
checking my dimensions. There was really no rhyme or reason I concluded how
those holes ended up being where they were. I ended up rearranging all
screws except the two aft machine screws. There's not much you can do with
those as far as rearranging them. I think there's one person I know of that
left those screws out altogether. Those machine screws go in the bottom
skin a few inches, if I remember correctly, aft of the aft spar. I think a
better way is to install nutplates vice the machine screws before you close
up the floor panels.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: Upper gear leg fairing attach? Reply with quote

CJ,

I put 4 platenuts in instead of the sheet metal screws. It wasn't too hard. The platenuts are pop-riveted in and work great. I put them exactly where the plans dictate. The sheet metal screws are definitely easier and probably work just as good since Van has them on his RV10's.

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CJohnston(at)popsound.com wrote:
hey all -

perhaps a dumb question. big surprise. can someone enlighten me as to the method of attach of the upper gear leg fairing? The plans say screw #6 1/2 SS SMS 3 places, and AN509-8R8 K1000-08 AN426AD3-3.5 (1place). I found stainless screws in the kit, but i'm thinking they're not the right ones. and what about nutplates for those 3 places? I don't get it. I thought that this must've confounded others, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. when i look inside the aircraft where these screws are supposed to go, it's not immediately apparent to me how it goes together. Are these "SMS" screws special? does "SMS" stand for "Super Magic Screw"?

one additional question... does anyone think it would be a problem to do the upper gear leg intersections later, and with weight on the wheels? the fairings sent to me by Vans for this area more closely resemble lasagna noodles than fairings, and i thought i might buy new ones from Fairings Etc. The problem is, that would take more time, and I'm trying to get these #(at)$!%!! fairings done so i can hang the engine! I kind of feel like I'm eating all my broccoli so I can get dessert. thoughts?

cj
(currently doing fairings - so call me Sandy)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Upper gear leg fairing attach? Reply with quote

Actually, if you have the choice, I'd use the platenuts
as much as you can, and perhaps try to limit to one
or two sheet metal screws. I've had mine want to un-screw
so I had to put some sealant on the threads just to keep
them from vibrating. Just pick some good locations for
the nutplates, one probably being on the wing root fairing.
And, if you drill for sheet metal screws, be careful to know
where the spar is. You don't want to hit that.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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CJ,

I put 4 platenuts in instead of the sheet metal screws. It wasn't
too hard. The platenuts are pop-riveted in and work great. I put
them exactly where the plans dictate. The sheet metal screws are
definitely easier and probably work just as good since Van has them
on his RV10's.

Zack





CJohnston(at)popsound.com wrote:
> hey all -
>
> perhaps a dumb question. big surprise. can someone enlighten me
> as to the method of attach of the upper gear leg fairing? The
> plans say screw #6 1/2 SS SMS 3 places, and AN509-8R8 K1000-08
> AN426AD3-3.5 (1place). I found stainless screws in the kit, but
> i'm thinking they're not the right ones. and what about nutplates
> for those 3 places? I don't get it. I thought that this must've
> confounded others, but a search of the archives didn't turn up
> anything. when i look inside the aircraft where these screws are
> supposed to go, it's not immediately apparent to me how it goes
> together. Are these "SMS" screws special? does "SMS" stand for
> "Super Magic Screw"?
>
> one additional question... does anyone think it would be a problem
> to do the upper gear leg intersections later, and with weight on
> the wheels? the fairings sent to me by Vans for this area more
> closely resemble lasagna noodles than fairings, and i thought i
> might buy new ones from Fairings Etc. The problem is, that would
> take more time, and I'm trying to get these #(at)$!%!! fairings done
> so i can hang the engine! I kind of feel like I'm eating all my
> broccoli so I can get dessert. thoughts?
>
> cj (currently doing fairings - so call me Sandy) #40410
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Upper gear leg fairing attach? Reply with quote

Weird that the fairing gets stuck on with sheet metal screws. I'll
probably try to do better than that.

For those who have come before me - once you've got the wheelpants (main
and nose) done and are just working on the nosegear leg fairing and the
upper intersection fairing (main gear), do you think the plane needs to
be jacked up for these items? Or can I set 'er down?

Thanks in advance!!

cj
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