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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

Can I get info on where many of you have placed your ELT? And the location of your external antenna so that it doesn't interfere with the other COM antenna? Thanks in advance.

Scott
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

Hi Scott,
I put it in the tail on a .032 aluminum matching the fuselage with hinge
for easy access from below. See links,
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/eltdwg.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/eltwired.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/eltbelow.gif

Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

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Can I get info on where many of you have placed your ELT? And the
location of your external antenna so that it doesn't interfere with
the other COM antenna? Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

I put my ELT antenna on the bottom of the fuselage about 1 foot to the
rear of the trailing edge of the wing. My COM antenna is mounted on top
of the baggage compartment about 8" forward of the rear of the baggage
compartment. I used some scrap .025 as a doubler.

Leo Gates
N601Z Taildragger - HDS

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Can I get info on where many of you have placed your ELT? And the
location of your external antenna so that it doesn't interfere with
the other COM antenna? Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

And I put my antenna on top near the rudder. The unit itself is on the
shelf rack and on the passenger side just below the shoulder attach point.
I put the "unit" there so I can reach it with a false activation. I ve had
ELTs go off in rough weather and because they were out of reach, I had to
land at the nearest airport to reset.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

Well (at least for my ELT) you can deactivate it after a false-trigger
from the remote switch:

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And I put my antenna on top near the rudder. The unit itself is on
the shelf rack and on the passenger side just below the shoulder
attach point. I put the "unit" there so I can reach it with a false
activation. I ve had ELTs go off in rough weather and because they
were out of reach, I had to land at the nearest airport to reset.
Steve W
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

I have the panel mounted "test" button. If the gravity switch is activated
in turblence I can not deactivate the thing.... So, thats my experience. I
ve had three of these models over the years and each operated the same....
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

ELT only broadcasts in an emergency so don't worry about the antenna interferring with anything. Mine is in the area behind the seat back (601XL) and the external antenna isright behind the gear channel.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

Leo, I'm no expert so take this for what is worth.

BUT... isn't the ELT antenna supposed to go on the top
side of the fuselage so that it can broadcast in the
event of a crash. Being on the bottom of the fuse,
would it not get knocked off in the event of a crash
that collapses the gear?

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
--- Leo Gates <leo(at)zuehlfield.com> wrote:

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<leo(at)zuehlfield.com>

I put my ELT antenna on the bottom of the fuselage
about 1 foot to the
rear of the trailing edge of the wing. My COM
antenna is mounted on top
of the baggage compartment about 8" forward of the
rear of the baggage
compartment. I used some scrap .025 as a doubler.

Leo Gates
N601Z Taildragger - HDS


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

LOL that is unless you plant the nose wheel in a corn field then what.....?????????? It would then be on top wouldn't it LOL

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--> Zenith-List message posted by: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com>

Leo, I'm no expert so take this for what is worth.

BUT... isn't the ELT antenna supposed to go on the top
side of the fuselage so that it can broadcast in the
event of a crash. Being on the bottom of the fuse,
would it not get knocked off in the event of a crash
that collapses the gear?

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
--- Leo Gates <leo(at)zuehlfield.com> wrote:

Quote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates
<leo(at)zuehlfield.com>

I put my ELT antenna on the bottom of the fuselage
about 1 foot to the
rear of the trailing edge of the wing. My COM
antenna is mounted on top
of the baggage compartment about 8" forward of the
rear of the baggage
compartment. I used some scrap .025 as a doubler.

Leo Gates
N601Z Taildragger - HDS


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

Scott,

I do not know if it is shown on current dwgs, but I installed the 6B3-2 Optional Battery Access Panel. I then installed the ELT in the tail cone area on the 6B1-3 Bottom End Skin (reinforced).with the antenna located forward of the 6B21-5 Saddle on the
6B21-6 Rear Top Skin. I did not want to have it in the "cargo" area behind the seats.

The 6B3-2 panel also provides inspection access for the rear fuselage for my 100 hr and annual inspections.

No problems with CG; in fact, the only way I can exceed aft CG on my airplane (without cargo) is to load over max gross with two "fat" guys and "Zero" fuel.

Tony Graziano
XL/Jab 3300, N493TG; 320 hrs

Subject: 601XL ELT position From: Scott Thatcher (s_thatcher(at)bellsouth.net ([email]s_thatcher(at)bellsouth.net?subject=Re:%20601XL%20ELT%20position&replyto=002901c8292a$62202c20$6101a8c0(at)launchmodem.com[/email])) Date: [b]Sat Nov 17 - 7:33 AM[/b]
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Can I get info on where many of you have placed your ELT? And the
location of your external antenna so that it doesn't interfere with the
other COM antenna? Thanks in advance.

Scott


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

You are correct. I did not have my brain engaged when I replied
before. My Transponder antenna is on the belly. My ELT antenna is
31/2' aft of my COM antenna - a couple of feet forward of the vert. stab.

Sorry about that.

Leo

MacDonald Doug wrote:
Quote:


Leo, I'm no expert so take this for what is worth.

BUT... isn't the ELT antenna supposed to go on the top
side of the fuselage so that it can broadcast in the
event of a crash. Being on the bottom of the fuse,
would it not get knocked off in the event of a crash
that collapses the gear?

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
--- Leo Gates <leo(at)zuehlfield.com> wrote:


>
> <leo(at)zuehlfield.com>
>
> I put my ELT antenna on the bottom of the fuselage
> about 1 foot to the
> rear of the trailing edge of the wing. My COM
> antenna is mounted on top
> of the baggage compartment about 8" forward of the
> rear of the baggage
> compartment. I used some scrap .025 as a doubler.
>
> Leo Gates
> N601Z Taildragger - HDS
>
>

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

Scott, I mounted the ELT behind the passenger seat on the floor. The antenna is attached to the belly below the passenger seat.

Chuck Maggart
XL/Jabiru/awaiting ABDAR insp.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

OPPS! A senior moment. I mounted the ELT antenna on top of the fuselage (not below the passenger seat) slightly forward of the rudder and at least three feet away from the com antenna which is farther forward. The transponder antenna is below the passenger seat. With the ELT behind the passenger seat I can reach it for servicing or to flip switches. With the Jabiru engine I need to keep the heavy weight options as far forward as possible.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

The main gear isn't likely to collapse..... bend, maybe but colapse? The ELT in that case isn't going to be very helpful, if you get my drift.

What will collapse in an off-field landing (crash) is usually the nosegear.
When it folds, the plane ususally noses over onto its back, hence the external antenna on the bottom would now be facing up.

The taildraggger has a fair chance of staying upright with more of its weight behind the mains.In that case the antenna still works okay on the bottom of the plane. It's all pretty much a crapshoot in which we try to go with the odds.

Dred

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side of the fuselage so that it can broadcast in the
event of a crash. Being on the bottom of the fuse,
would it not get knocked off in the event of a crash
that collapses the gear?

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: 601XL ELT position Reply with quote

I have my ELT antenna mounted to the gusset at the front corner of the
baggage shelf with the antenna whip curving around just behind the
passenger seat under the canopy. That way I figure, if the cabin
survives the crash, so will the ELT antenna. If I'm not badly injured in
the crash, I can always take the ELT out and attach the telescoping
antenna and set it up on higher ground or somewhere it will have a
better chance of being received.

MacDonald Doug wrote:
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Leo, I'm no expert so take this for what is worth.

BUT... isn't the ELT antenna supposed to go on the top
side of the fuselage so that it can broadcast in the
event of a crash. Being on the bottom of the fuse,
would it not get knocked off in the event of a crash
that collapses the gear?

Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada



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