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rv6n(at)optonline.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: coronary trouble

Dear listers,

  

 After five years building, one year of test flights going nowhere, two months in the paint shop and now with only 66 hours on my pride and joy RV6 I have had a heart attack.  Right Coronary artery was 100% blocked and required a stent.  It has been two months now and I feel fine and am back to work. (don't tell my doctors)      Frustrated but glad to be alive.

  

 Now I am wondering what other listers have gone through in order to get a special issue.  I have considered selling my RV6 and going LSA but would much rather beat my chest and say I can do this.  I have read the archives and this thing does not seem very positive.

  

 I've read the FAA Coronary Artery Disease information and it seems like a lot of requirements for my Class III.  Is it as bad as it reads?  Does anyone know if these requirements are required every year?  Any idea what the costs are?  I know there are companies out there that specialize in helping pilots get medicals but is it advisable to use them or can any AME request  the special issue?  I'm not sure I trust my AME to have my best interest in his mind.  My medical expires in April, am I supposed to disqualify myself now?  If I was flying LSA would it be necessary to disqualify myself?

  

 Any information/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. 

  

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Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: coronary trouble

Sorry to hear of your set back but glad you are healing  well.

  

 One of the best sources of information and assistance in  regaining a medical certificate can be found at Virtual Flight Surgeons http://aviationmedicine.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home

  

 There company started as consultants to the airlines providing  assistance in getting 1st class medicals reinstated.

  

 They now serve private idividuals as well.

  

 Dick Sipp

 satisfied customer

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welchvincent(at)hotmail.c
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: coronary trouble

Go to the AOPA web site, they have some excellent information on this subject and can be a great help.  Best of luck to you.

  

 Vince



  	  Quote: 	
		    Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:49:16 +0000

From: rv6n(at)optonline.net

Subject: coronary trouble

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com



  Dear listers,

  

 After five years building, one year of test flights going nowhere, two months in the paint shop and now with only 66 hours on my pride and joy RV6 I have had a heart attack.  Right Coronary artery was 100% blocked and required a stent.  It has been two months now and I feel fine and am back to work. (don't tell my doctors)      Frustrated but glad to be alive.

  

 Now I am wondering what other listers have gone through in order to get a special issue.  I have considered selling my RV6 and going LSA but would much rather beat my chest and say I can do this.  I have read the archives and this thing does not seem very positive.

  

 I've read the FAA Coronary Artery Disease information and it seems like a lot of requirements for my Class III.  Is it as bad as it reads?  Does anyone know if these requirements are required every year?  Any idea what the costs are?  I know there are companies out there that specialize in helping pilots get medicals but is it advisable to use them or can any AME request  the special issue?  I'm not sure I trust my AME to have my best interest in his mind.  My medical expires in April, am I supposed to disqualify myself now?  If I was flying LSA would it be necessary to disqualify myself?

  

 Any information/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. 

  

 Do not archive

  



	
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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 454
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:34 am Post subject: coronary trouble

Find yourself an AME that has a track record of working through  

special issuance. If you belong to AOPA, get with their Medical Dept.  

and have them help you. They are very good. I have a special issuance  

for other problems, but have been through the AME that was not  

knowledgable vs. the AME that knows what he/she is doing. Believe me,  

you don't want the former! A good AME will be able to look at all of  

your test results, when the time comes, and tell you with some  

certainty whether or not you will be a likely candidate for SI. I  

believe you have to be six months post procedure before the FAA will  

consider SI.

If I were in your position, I would definitely go for it. Where are  

you located?



David Maib

RV-10 40559



On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:49 PM, rv6n(at)optonline.net wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Dear listers,



 After five years building, one year of test flights going nowhere,  

 two months in the paint shop and now with only 66 hours on my pride  

 and joy RV6 I have had a heart attack.  Right Coronary artery was  

 100% blocked and required a stent.  It has been two months now and  

 I feel fine and am back to work. (don't tell my doctors)       

 Frustrated but glad to be alive.



 Now I am wondering what other listers have gone through in order to  

 get a special issue.  I have considered selling my RV6 and going  

 LSA but would much rather beat my chest and say I can do this.  I  

 have read the archives and this thing does not seem very positive.



 I've read the FAA Coronary Artery Disease information and it seems  

 like a lot of requirements for my Class III.  Is it as bad as it  

 reads?  Does anyone know if these requirements are required every  

 year?  Any idea what the costs are?  I know there are companies out  

 there that specialize in helping pilots get medicals but is it  

 advisable to use them or can any AME request  the special issue?   

 I'm not sure I trust my AME to have my best interest in his mind.   

 My medical expires in April, am I supposed to disqualify myself  

 now?  If I was flying LSA would it be necessary to disqualify myself?



 Any information/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.



 Do not archive

_________________
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

billsettle(at)bellsouth.n
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: coronary trouble

I can't respond to the actual procedure, but I would think you would be able to get cleared to the previous status of your Class III.  As someone else suggested, I would contact AOPA...   

  

I have a good friend who is now retired from one of the majors.  He was cleared to flying status of his Class I after his 1st heart attack and by-pass surgery, and he was also cleared after his 2nd ordeal. (I don't recall if he had a by-pass that time.)  However, he was not cleared after his 3rd grounding just before retirement...  He had the support of the ALPA and it was a rather lengthy process.  IIRC, it took about 18 months to get cleared the first time.  I talked to him last week and he said he had been in the hospital again for another blockage...  Always in good shape.  Never Drank.  Never Smoked.....

  	  Quote: 	
		  -------------- Original message from rv6n(at)optonline.net: -------------- 



  Dear listers,

  

 After five years building, one year of test flights going nowhere, two months in the paint shop and now with only 66 hours on my pride and joy RV6 I have had a heart attack.  Right Coronary artery was 100% blocked and required a stent.  It has been two months now and I feel fine and am back to work. (don't tell my doctors)      Frustrated but glad to be alive.

  

 Now I am wondering what other listers have gone through in order to get a special issue.  I have considered selling my RV6 and going LSA but would much rather beat my chest and say I can do this.  I have read the archives and this thing does not seem very positive.

  

 I've read the FAA Coronary Artery Disease information and it seems like a lot of requirements for my Class III.  Is it as bad as it reads?  Does anyone know if these requirements are required every year?  Any idea what the costs are?  I know there are companies out there that specialize in helping pilots get medicals but is it advisable to use them or can any AME request  the special issue?  I'm not sure I trust my AME to have my best interest in his mind.  My medical expires in April, am I supposed to disqualify myself now?  If I was flying LSA would it be necessary to disqualify myself?

  

 Any information/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. 

  

 Do not archive

  



	
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n395v

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 450

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: Re: coronary trouble

I am not an AME but I am a Cardiologist and have several patients with stents who have regained their 1st and 3rd class medicals. It is doable but you are in for a lengthy process. The 1st issuance is the most involved, then I believe it is just a yearly nuclear stress test and letter from your cardiologist.



You spent too much time building to give up now.

_________________
Milt

cjensen(at)dts9000.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: coronary trouble

It's  not as intimidating and hopeless as you would think (or that it was a few years  ago).  Do your research but I suspect that with an appropriate amount of  time passing, they will request you to do a maximal stress test with 12-lead  EKG.  Then the exercise test should be evaluated by your cardiologist along  with your cardiac history and his assessment of your condition.  They  likely will require lab tests for the lipid panel (cholesterol) but if you've  made a good recovery, you may well have the license back within the year.   I don't know what impact on their evaluation protocol a stent will have or the  other meds that you take, but you can pretty well figure on a yearly stress test  for the foreseeable future.

  

 Make  sure you have the evaluation of all your data done by an AME on a consulting  basis, not as a formal submittal.  If he is knowledgeable and says "no  way", then the worst case will be to revert to LSA before the medical  application is denied.  Once that happens then, as you know, the conundrum  (and stupidity) starts.

  

 Good  luck

  

 P.S.  I have some insight into this as I had a C.I. 25 years ago,  though no stent was installed.  I've been flying a Velocity ever since, so  its not hopeless.  I can assure you that you will probably not be nervous  flying yourself when you get back in the air, but you'll look at the situation  of flying other non-pilots that are not able to take over n the event of  incapacitation from a little different perspective.  If you fly regularly  with the same person, having them take the EAA Pitch-Hitter's course is a good  idea. Good luck and take care of yourself.  If a person is going to be  sick, now is a great time with all the diagnostic capabilities and treatments  that have been developed.

 

Thanks, 

Chuck  Jensen  

Diversified Technologies  

2680 Westcott Blvd 

Knoxville, TN  37931 

Phn:    865-539-9000 x100  

Cell:     865-406-9001 

Fax:     865-539-9001 

cjensen(at)dts9000.com  [quote]   --

n616tb(at)btsapps.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: coronary trouble

Chuck Said  

.  If you fly regularly with the same person, having them take the EAA Pitch-Hitter's course is a good idea.   

   

Or if this condition is true why not have them get their pilots license and you can keep on flying.  I am operating on a special issuance but my wife and I have decided she will get her license so in the event I don’t feel I will be able to pass again, I would just revert my license to LSA and keep flying the RV with her on board and qualified to fly it.  Besides you may very well be grounded for 6 months to 18 months or so.  A person can get a license in much shorter time if wanted.  

   

Tim  

           

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Jensen

 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:28 AM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: coronary trouble  

  

     

It's not as intimidating and hopeless as you would think (or that it was a few years ago).  Do your research but I suspect that with an appropriate amount of time passing, they will request you to do a maximal stress test with 12-lead EKG.  Then the exercise test should be evaluated by your cardiologist along with your cardiac history and his assessment of your condition.  They likely will require lab tests for the lipid panel (cholesterol) but if you've made a good recovery, you may well have the license back within the year.  I don't know what impact on their evaluation protocol a stent will have or the other meds that you take, but you can pretty well figure on a yearly stress test for the foreseeable future.  

    

   

    

Make sure you have the evaluation of all your data done by an AME on a consulting basis, not as a formal submittal.  If he is knowledgeable and says "no way", then the worst case will be to revert to LSA before the medical application is denied.  Once that happens then, as you know, the conundrum (and stupidity) starts.  

    

   

    

Good luck  

    

   

    

P.S.  I have some insight into this as I had a C.I. 25 years ago, though no stent was installed.  I've been flying a Velocity ever since, so its not hopeless.  I can assure you that you will probably not be nervous flying yourself when you get back in the air, but you'll look at the situation of flying other non-pilots that are not able to take over n the event of incapacitation from a little different perspective.  If you fly regularly with the same person, having them take the EAA Pitch-Hitter's course is a good idea. Good luck and take care of yourself.  If a person is going to be sick, now is a great time with all the diagnostic capabilities and treatments that have been developed.  

  

Thanks, 

 Chuck Jensen   

Diversified Technologies 

 2680   Westcott Blvd 

 Knoxville, TN  37931 

 Phn:    865-539-9000 x100 

 Cell:    865-406-9001 

 Fax:     865-539-9001 

 cjensen(at)dts9000.com   [quote]  

--

bmeyette(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: coronary trouble

While I personally didn’t attend the recent AOPA Expo in CT, one of the most significant things reported back to me from those who did go is that AOPA is you best friend regarding medicals.  They have a section devoted to smoothing the way for you regarding your medical.  I suggest contacting AOPA.  

HTH,  

brian  

         

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv6n(at)optonline.net

 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:49 PM

 To: RV list

 Subject: coronary trouble  

  

       

Dear listers,  

    

   

    

After five years building, one year of test flights going nowhere, two months in the paint shop and now with only 66 hours on my pride and joy RV6 I have had a heart attack.  Right Coronary artery was 100% blocked and required a stent.  It has been two months now and I feel fine and am back to work. (don't tell my doctors)      Frustrated but glad to be alive.  

    

   

    

Now I am wondering what other listers have gone through in order to get a special issue.  I have considered selling my RV6 and going LSA but would much rather beat my chest and say I can do this.  I have read the archives and this thing does not seem very positive.  

    

   

    

I've read the FAA Coronary Artery Disease information and it seems like a lot of requirements for my Class III.  Is it as bad as it reads?  Does anyone know if these requirements are required every year?  Any idea what the costs are?  I know there are companies out there that specialize in helping pilots get medicals but is it advisable to use them or can any AME request  the special issue?  I'm not sure I trust my AME to have my best interest in his mind.  My medical expires in April, am I supposed to disqualify myself now?  If I was flying LSA would it be necessary to disqualify myself?  

    

   

    

Any information/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.   

    

   

    

Do not archive  

    

   

  

  

   

No virus found in this incoming message.

 11/19/2007 7:05 PM  

     

  11/19/2007 7:05 PM

     [quote][b]

askdrkatz

Joined: 09 May 2006
Posts: 1

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: coronary trouble

I am a family practice doc, not an ame.  I had CABG (coronary bypass)  a number of yrs ago.  I will share my experience with you.  First, your medical certifcate provisions requires airmen to step a side for a minimum 6 months and then you will need to apply for a special issuance directly to FAA.  They will want a stress test that shows ability to achieve 100% predicted pulse without any signs of active dx, geneally a clearence by your cardiologist.  Your letter of special issuence is upon review by the FAA and requires yearly stress tests and attestation by your cardiologist plus  review annually at FAA Medical Director or his designated examaner which for me is now my AME.  Your medical requirement for sports pilot is valid drivers lic, but that only if you have never been refussed a medical certificate and thats were it gets a little merky, I have heard it both ways from two different AME s.  I would like to think that I  can fly sport pilot by simply letting my special lapse, however my gut tells me this may not be so.  The AOPA  is truly helpful in getting definitive answers.  Anyways good luck and good health.

   

  Paul Katz DO

  RV7/fusel



Bill Settle <billsettle(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:

  [quote]  

  I can't respond to the actual procedure, but I would think you would be able to get cleared to the previous status of your Class III.  As someone else suggested, I would contact AOPA...  

   

  I have a good friend who is now retired from one of the majors.  He was cleared to flying status of his Class I after his 1st heart attack and by-pass surgery, and he was also cleared after his  2nd ordeal. (I don't recall if he had a by-pass that time.)  However, he was not cleared after his 3rd grounding just before retirement...  He had the support of the ALPA and it was a rather lengthy process.  IIRC, it took about 18 months to get cleared the first time.  I talked to him last week and he said he had been in the hospital again for another blockage...  Always in good shape.  Never Drank.  Never Smoked.....



  [quote]-------------- Original message from rv6n(at)optonline.net: -------------- 



    Dear listers,

   

  After five years building, one year of test flights going nowhere, two months in the paint shop and now with only 66 hours on my pride and joy RV6 I have had a heart attack.  Right Coronary artery was 100% blocked and required a stent.  It has been two  months now and I feel fine and am back to work. (don't tell my doctors)      Frustrated but glad to be alive.

   

  Now I am wondering what other listers have gone through in order to get a special issue.  I have considered selling my RV6 and going LSA but would much rather beat my chest and say I can do this.  I have read the archives and this thing does not seem very positive.

   

  I've read the FAA Coronary Artery Disease information and it seems like a lot of requirements for my Class III.  Is it as bad as it reads?  Does anyone know if these requirements are required every year?  Any idea what the costs are?  I know there are companies out there that specialize in helping pilots get medicals but is it advisable to use them or can any AME request  the special issue?  I'm not sure I trust my AME to have my best interest in his [quote][b]

dennis.glaeser(at)eds.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: coronary trouble

I had an MI back in '93 but, due to a job change & relocation and lots of other stuff, didn't pursue reinstating my medical until 2004.  I was fortunate that the damage was slight, and no procedures or surgery were warranted.  

Your AME starts the process.  Then it's up to you for the rest.  The FAA sends you a letter with all the requirements you need to meet.  The first submission was the toughest for me because you have to provide a complete history of ALL related medical records, so I had to get stuff from the original hospital and doctors (in another state). The first time I also had to do both a Stress test and a Stress Echo (an echocardiogram before and immediately after the treadmill).  I did all of this on my own - other than talking on the phone with the AOPA a couple of times.  Fortunately, my cardiologist and regular doctor are very supportive and all of these tests are things done normally anyway, so everything is covered by my health insurance.  

Now, every year I have to do a Stress Test (to their specifications) and blood work showing all lipids (cholesterol levels).  It's really not that bad, but you do have to follow the instructions they send you regarding the timing (within 3 months of when your medical is due) and the metrics that need to be achieved on the stress tests.  This year I had to redo my stress test because I'd achieved the required heart rate in 8.5 minutes but (I discovered later) the spec calls for a minimum of 9 minutes on the treadmill. So I did 11 minutes on the retest just to be sure.  The FAA also wants copies of the actual EKG tracings, so the medical staff has to photocopy the tracings from the EKG machine.  I also need the written report from the Stress test, and a doctor statement that he finds no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to fly.  

I have a 3rd class medical, which must be renewed every year by sending the required info to the FAA.  Every other year, like a 'normal' 3rd class, I also have to go to my AME for a regular exam.  

So hang in there.  It's another hassle, but IMHO well worth the effort.   

BTW - I'm also a CFI, and yes we are to disqualify ourselves from flying if something happens that would affect your ability to fly (even for an LSA or gliders).  Not just heart stuff, but if you break your leg, or have a sinus infection you shouldn't fly either.  It's just that with heart stuff, you can't recertify yourself as being fit to fly again.  

Dennis Glaeser  

RV-7A in final assembly     [quote][b]

t6pilot(at)cfl.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: coronary trouble

This outfit helped me get my medical back  legally with a very similar problem.

  

 www.leftseat.com/ 

  

 Pilot Medical Solutions,  Inc.

 Oklahoma City,  Oklahoma

  

 Good luck.

  

  

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larywil(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: coronary trouble

 	  Quote: 	
		  

   <<<Your medical requirement for sports pilot is valid drivers 

 lic, but that only if you have never been refussed a medical 

 certificate and thats were it gets a little merky, I have heard it 

 both ways from two different AME s



Paul Katz DO

RV7/fusel>>>>


	


Dr. Katz has stated exactly what crossed my mind when you said you 

might go the LSA route.  Whatever you do, don't talk to the FAA until 

you absolutely know what your options are. I am pretty certain that 

the FAA will refuse you for an LSA license if you tell them you have 

had a heart problem, even if an AME never refused you. This may truly 

be a case of "don't ask, don't tell."





-

Louis I Willig

1640 Oakwood Dr.

Penn Valley, PA 19072

610 668-4964

RV-4, N180PF

190HP IO-360, C/S prop

sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: coronary trouble

Louis Willig wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Dr. Katz has stated exactly what crossed my mind when you said you might 

 go the LSA route.  Whatever you do, don't talk to the FAA until you 

 absolutely know what your options are. I am pretty certain that the FAA 

 will refuse you for an LSA license if you tell them you have had a heart 

 problem, even if an AME never refused you. This may truly be a case of 

 "don't ask, don't tell."


	




A private pilot doesn't have to "apply" for a LSA (Sport Pilot) 

certificate. The pilot only has to restrict his flying to aircraft that 

meet the LSA standard and fly under Sport Pilot rules. Since no medical 

exam is required or specified in the Sport Pilot rule the FAA can't 

prevent someone from flying due to medical problems as long as the pilot 

hasn't previously failed an FAA medical exam.



Sam Buchanan

Vanremog(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: coronary trouble

In a message dated 11/20/2007 10:09:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  askdrkatz(at)yahoo.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  First,    your medical certificate provisions requires airmen to step a side for a    minimum 6 months and then you will need to apply for a special issuance    directly to FAA. 	


 

 ==================================

  

 Be careful, be diligent and read all the fine print in any documents  completely and carefully.  If your medical gets referred by your AME to  Okie City, they will send you a letter denying your medical renewal and it will  state what is required to reapply.  It will also state that if you do  not start the process of reinstatement within a certain period of time (I  think it was 90 days), then the denial of your medical is final.

  

  

  

 N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 870hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon  Valley) 



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  [quote][b]

Dale Ensing

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 571
Location: Aero Plantation Weddington NC

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: coronary trouble

Sam,

Your statement below could be a little misleading.



"Since no medical exam is required or specified in the Sport Pilot rule the 

FAA can't  prevent someone from flying due to medical problems as long as 

the pilot  hasn't previously failed an FAA medical exam."



Even when flying an LSA and under the Sport Pilot rules, a pilot still must 

ground him/her self for any medical reasons that would impair their ability 

to control the airplane just as a pilot with an FAA medical would do. 

(According to the speaker at a recent AOPA safery meeting.)

 	  Quote: 	
		   Louis Willig wrote:



> Dr. Katz has stated exactly what crossed my mind when you said you might 

> go the LSA route.  Whatever you do, don't talk to the FAA until you 

> absolutely know what your options are. I am pretty certain that the FAA 

> will refuse you for an LSA license if you tell them you have had a heart 

> problem, even if an AME never refused you. This may truly be a case of 

> "don't ask, don't tell."

 A private pilot doesn't have to "apply" for a LSA (Sport Pilot) 

 certificate. The pilot only has to restrict his flying to aircraft that 

 meet the LSA standard and fly under Sport Pilot rules. Since no medical 

 exam is required or specified in the Sport Pilot rule the FAA can't 

 prevent someone from flying due to medical problems as long as the pilot 

 hasn't previously failed an FAA medical exam.



 Sam Buchanan

_________________
Dale Ensing
RV-6A
Aero Plantation
Weddington NC

sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: coronary trouble

Dale Ensing wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Sam,

 Your statement below could be a little misleading.

 

 "Since no medical exam is required or specified in the Sport Pilot rule 

 the FAA can't  prevent someone from flying due to medical problems as 

 long as the pilot  hasn't previously failed an FAA medical exam."

 

 Even when flying an LSA and under the Sport Pilot rules, a pilot still 

 must ground him/her self for any medical reasons that would impair their 

 ability to control the airplane just as a pilot with an FAA medical 

 would do. (According to the speaker at a recent AOPA safery meeting.)


	


I don't think the statement is misleading, just a literal representation 

of the rule. There is no medical exam or statement of medical 

pre-conditions required in the process of getting a Sport Pilot 

certificate or flying under Sport Pilot privileges.



You are correct in your statement about self grounding, but the FAA has 

no way to enforce or police that requirement under the Sport Pilot rule 

since no medical exams are required. Also included in the Sport Pilot 

standards is the requirement to possess a valid driver's license. This 

supposedly implies some sort of physical capacity but in the real world 

probably doesn't mean much of anything since people who are still 

ambulatory hardly ever lose a driver's license due to health problems.



Sam Buchanan

acepilot(at)bloomer.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: coronary trouble

I would think that a pilot flying under sport pilot rules because of a 

previous heart attack would basically self-certify before each flight by 

saying "I feel pretty good today, looks like a nice day to go flying" 

just as I do with my 3rd class medical.  If I don't feel good, I don't 

fly and would continue to do that under sport pilot.  I've often 

wondered what real good is having a 3rd class (or any class for that 

metter) medical.  I could pass the exam today and tip over tomorrow from 

the big one.  And when I tip, I could be mowing the yard, watching TV, 

reading a book, building on my RV4 or be flying.  do not archive



Scott

http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/

Gotta Fly or Gonna Die

Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)



Sam Buchanan wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Dale Ensing wrote:



> 

>

> Sam,

> Your statement below could be a little misleading.

>

> "Since no medical exam is required or specified in the Sport Pilot 

> rule the FAA can't  prevent someone from flying due to medical 

> problems as long as the pilot  hasn't previously failed an FAA 

> medical exam."

>

> Even when flying an LSA and under the Sport Pilot rules, a pilot 

> still must ground him/her self for any medical reasons that would 

> impair their ability to control the airplane just as a pilot with an 

> FAA medical would do. (According to the speaker at a recent AOPA 

> safery meeting.)

 I don't think the statement is misleading, just a literal 

 representation of the rule. There is no medical exam or statement of 

 medical pre-conditions required in the process of getting a Sport 

 Pilot certificate or flying under Sport Pilot privileges.



 You are correct in your statement about self grounding, but the FAA 

 has no way to enforce or police that requirement under the Sport Pilot 

 rule since no medical exams are required. Also included in the Sport 

 Pilot standards is the requirement to possess a valid driver's 

 license. This supposedly implies some sort of physical capacity but in 

 the real world probably doesn't mean much of anything since people who 

 are still ambulatory hardly ever lose a driver's license due to health 

 problems.



 Sam Buchanan

Dale Ensing

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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: coronary trouble

Right.. There is no medical exam or statement of medical pre-condition for a 

Sport Pilot. But, according to the AOPA speaker at the safety meeting, if 

there is a reason for them to look at the pilots credentials (an accident or 

incident for example), the FAA will view the pilots knowledge of a 

pre-condition in the same way as failing to report the pre-condition on a 

medical exam. The Sport Pilot rules don't eliminate that responsibility just 

because no medical is required.

Dale Ensing



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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: coronary trouble

Dale Ensing wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Right.. There is no medical exam or statement of medical pre-condition 

 for a Sport Pilot. But, according to the AOPA speaker at the safety 

 meeting, if there is a reason for them to look at the pilots credentials 

 (an accident or incident for example), the FAA will view the pilots 

 knowledge of a pre-condition in the same way as failing to report the 

 pre-condition on a medical exam. The Sport Pilot rules don't eliminate 

 that responsibility just because no medical is required.


	




So.....under what FARs do we find details and specifications on what 

medically disqualifies a Sport Pilot??



You can look, but you won't find it...... 



Sam Buchanan

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