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0. 12:12 AM - [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:00 AM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin (Brad Cohen)
2. 03:08 AM - Re: 701 Build time (rroberts)
3. 04:10 AM - Re: Free forming sheet metal (kmccune)
4. 05:19 AM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (steve)
5. 05:31 AM - Re: Free forming sheet metal (MacDonald Doug)
6. 05:32 AM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (Afterfxllc(at)aol.com)
7. 05:39 AM - Elevator Control Friction (countzero)
8. 05:53 AM - Re: Quick Question About 601XL Z-angles (Paul Mulwitz)
9. 06:19 AM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (Pete Krotje)
10. 06:43 AM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin (LarryMcFarland)
11. 06:46 AM - Re: Taildragger (Aaron Gustafson)
12. 06:54 AM - Re: Roll over protection (Aaron Gustafson)
13. 07:01 AM - Re: Roll over protection (Gig Giacona)
14. 07:20 AM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (Afterfxllc(at)aol.com)
15. 07:40 AM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (T. Graziano)
16. 08:21 AM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (Afterfxllc(at)aol.com)
17. 09:13 AM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (Randy)
18. 09:30 AM - Re: RE : Re: Scratchbuilding Tools (Terry Phillips)
19. 10:52 AM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin (Art Olechowski)
20. 11:02 AM - RE : Re: Scratchbuilding Tools (DaveG601XL)
21. 01:05 PM - Re: Roll over protection (Terry Phillips)
22. 01:09 PM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (T. Graziano)
23. 01:11 PM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (T. Graziano)
24. 01:33 PM - Re: Elevator Control Friction (Martin Pohl)
25. 01:44 PM - Re: Roll over protection (Gig Giacona)
26. 01:50 PM - Emailing: tommy929 004 (steve)
27. 02:01 PM - Re: Roll over protection (Jaybannist(at)cs.com)
28. 02:13 PM - Re: RE : Re: Scratchbuilding Tools ()
29. 02:55 PM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin (LarryMcFarland)
30. 03:18 PM - Re: of wrath and rants... (secatur)
31. 03:26 PM - Re: RE : Re: Scratchbuilding Tools (Terry Turnquist)
32. 03:32 PM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin (Paul Riedlinger)
33. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: of wrath and rants... (dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
34. 03:52 PM - Re: 701 Arm rest/console (kmccune)
35. 04:10 PM - Re: RE : Re: Scratchbuilding Tools (Al Hays)
36. 04:17 PM - 4130N-or-not-N (Flydog1966(at)aol.com)
37. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: Roll over protection (David Downey)
38. 04:45 PM - Re: RE : Re: Scratchbuilding Tools (Ron Culver)
39. 05:06 PM - Re: ELT Position. (leinad)
40. 05:10 PM - Re: RE : Re: Scratchbuilding Tools (Graeme)
41. 05:15 PM - Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend (Afterfxllc(at)aol.com)
42. 05:16 PM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin (Art Olechowski)
43. 05:34 PM - 701 Build Time (Dan)
44. 05:55 PM - Re: 4130N-or-not-N (LarryMcFarland)
45. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Cost of scratch build versus kit build (Ron Lalonde)
46. 06:55 PM - Re: Hello all... (Joshua)
47. 07:45 PM - Re: Free forming sheet metal (Ron Lendon)
48. 07:45 PM - Glass Panels (Andrew Hinsdale)
49. 08:01 PM - Re: Rudder Nose Skin (Paul Riedlinger)
50. 08:24 PM - Re: Glass Panels (craig(at)craigandjean.com)
51. 08:32 PM - Re: Taildragger (Brad Cohen)
52. 09:54 PM - Re: Scratchbuilding Tools (mosquito56)
53. 10:09 PM - Re: Glass Panels (Paul Mulwitz)
54. 11:16 PM - Re: Glass Panels (DRAGONFUEL(at)aol.com)
________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________
Time: 12:12:34 AM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
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________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 03:00:00 AM PST US
From: "Brad Cohen" <bradfnp(at)msn.com>
Subject: RE: Rudder Nose Skin
Art,
If the gap is symmetrical to the centerline of flight (eg; the aircraft) and
it is securely riveted to both sides of the ribs, I would say that you
shouldn't sweat it. I cant imagine that it will affect the flight
characteristics that mush to have the rudder 1.5mm longer than specs. The
only thing I can think of is yo might have to adjust the position of the
saddle much much much later in your build.
Brad Cohen
XL/TD
>From: Art Olechowski <ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.net>
>To: Zenith Matornics list <zenith-list(at)matronics.com>
>Subject: Rudder Nose Skin
>Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:05:25 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>He all I have a dilemma with my nose skin on the rudder. When I drilled
>the holes through spar
>and nose skin I confirmed that both nose rib tips were flush with inside of
>the skin. But when I
>overlapped the nose skin on top the rear skin and clecoed in place both
>nose ribs contain about a
>1.5mm gap in between the skin. Both ribs have all the holes drilled in
>flanges. Have any of you
>experienced this and if so whats are the resolutions or recommendations?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Art
>701 Scratch builder .0005% Complete
>
>
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 03:08:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: 701 Build time
From: "rroberts" <n701rr(at)yahoo.com>
Yep, me too:
Started 5/26/04 Completed 10/07/07 (my fault) airframe hours 1027, powerplant
hours 45, other 93 for a total of 1194 hours. BUT...I guess there's 1/4 to 1/2
that time I probably didn't log. There's no column in my Builder's Log tor
pondering... [Shocked]
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Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147430#147430
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 04:10:34 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Free forming sheet metal
From: "kmccune" <kmccune(at)somtel.net>
Very nice! I've been wondering about those English wheel!
Kevin
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Kevin
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147436#147436
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 05:19:08 AM PST US
From: "steve" <notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Jabiru/601 FWF Seminar This Past Weekend
I have not run my 3300 yet but I m gettin close. I did own an Avid
Flyer with a 2200A for 13 years. The 2200 always ran hot. In fact I
never could get the temps on the EGT below 1375. Sometimes EGTs were in
the 1475 range.
I solved my worries one day by flying above the airport (3000agl) and
let her do what ever she wanted. The engine ran fine at 1475......
However I did have good CHTs. CHTs were in the 190 to 265 range.
At that time Jabiru didnt have EGTs on their factory Jabiru airplanes.
I guess they didnt want to know EGTs.
Today I think the hight EGTs are a result of placing the probes in the
wrong location. 100 mm is either too close or too far from the
flange..... CHTs are probably the best tell tail of how your engine is
doing..
SW
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