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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

Hey all you scratch builders have any of you calculated the weight increase when using the .125
3/4" X 3/4" angle opposed to the kit supplied .093 thickness? I imagine the amount is small but it
does reduce your useful load. Does anyone know what the per foot weight of .093 is? If not could
one of the kit builders measure and weigh a piece, then post it for archiving?
Thanks,
Art


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

3/4 x 3/4 x 1/8 weighs .200 lb/ft

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

If you are refering to the 701 it's about a 4 # penalty. John


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Hey all you scratch builders have any of you calculated the weight increase when using the .125
3/4" X 3/4" angle opposed to the kit supplied .093 thickness? I imagine the amount is small but it
does reduce your useful load. Does anyone know what the per foot weight of .093 is? If not could
one of the kit builders measure and weigh a piece, then post it for archiving?
Thanks,
Art



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

Cut a piece of 0.032 x 1.5 inch x 12 inches long. Weight it and that is the delta/ft. (with a 1 inch long piece it would be the delta per inch)

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Subject: .093 vs .125 Angle From: Art Olechowski (ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.net?subject=Re:%20.093%20vs%20.125%20Angle&replyto=298014.84995.qm(at)web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com[/email])) Date: [b]Fri Nov 23 - 7:43 PM[/b]
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Hey all you scratch builders have any of you calculated the weight increase when
using the .125
3/4" X 3/4" angle opposed to the kit supplied .093 thickness? I imagine the amount
is small but it
does reduce your useful load. Does anyone know what the per foot weight of .093
is? If not could
one of the kit builders measure and weigh a piece, then post it for archiving?

Thanks,
Art

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

maybe 0.09375" but certainly not 0.032"???

"T. Graziano" <tonyplane(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:[quote] Cut a piece of 0.032 x 1.5 inch x 12 inches long. Weight it and that is the delta/ft. (with a 1 inch long piece it would be the delta per inch)

Tony Graziano
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Subject: .093 vs .125 Angle From: Art Olechowski (ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.net ([email]ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.net?subject=Re:%20.093%20vs%20.125%20Angle&replyto 98014.84995.qm(at)web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com[/email])) Date: [b]Fri Nov 23 - 7:43 PM[/b] [quote][quote][b]Hey all you scratch builders have any of you calculated the weight increase when
using the .125
3/4" X 3/4" angle opposed to the kit supplied .093 thickness? I imagine the amount
is small but it
does reduce your useful load. Does anyone know what the per foot weight of .093
is? If not could
one of the kit builders measure and weigh a piece, then post it for archiving?

Thanks,
Art [quote][b]


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:44 am    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

John,
Kind of figured someone had determined the weight penalty. Thanks, John.

Art
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>Hey all you scratch builders have any of you calculated the weight increase when using the .125
>3/4" X 3/4" angle opposed to the kit supplied .093 thickness? I imagine the amount is small but
it
>does reduce your useful load. Does anyone know what the per foot weight of .093 is? If not
could
>one of the kit builders measure and weigh a piece, then post it for archiving?
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>
>Thanks,
>Art
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

Dave, As with about a third of your posts, there was no message in the original posting. When I hit "reply", your complete posting showed up.

Jay
David Downey <planecrazydld(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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since Wicks lists the 0.062 at 0.106 lb/running root and 0.125 at 0.200 lb/running foot, I would assume that the value for 0.09375 would be calculatable.

Art Olechowski <ifly4fun2(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hey all you scratch builders have any of you calculated the weight increase when using the .125
3/4" X 3/4" angle opposed to the kit supplied .093 thickness? I imagine the amount is small but it
does reduce your useful load. Does anyone know what the per foot weight of .093 is? If not could
one of the kit builders measure and weigh a piece, then post it for archiving?
Thanks,
Art

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

Thanks Jay;

...and I am not smart enough to figure out how to fix it!

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Dave, As with about a third of your posts, there was no message in the original posting. When I hit "reply", your complete posting showed up.

Jay
David Downey wrote:

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since Wicks lists the 0.062 at 0.106 lb/running root and 0.125 at 0.200 lb/running foot, I would assume that the value for 0.09375 would be calculatable.

Art Olechowski wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Art Olechowski

Hey all you scratch builders have any of you calculated the weight increase when using the .125
3/4" X 3/4" angle opposed to the kit supplied .093 thickness? I imagine the Harleysville (SE) PA
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

I got .1532 lb (rounded off) per foot for 0.09375. At that rate if you used
about 85 feet of .125 you would increase the total weight of the aircraft by
4 pounds over the kit supplied materials.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: .093 vs .125 Angle Reply with quote

Fellow builders

Don't forget that you have to bend the upper front longerons 6B11-1 to a
curvature around the cockpit. The .093 angle supplied by CZAW (and I assume
Zenith in the States) has a square intersection of legs i.e. the was no
internal radius in the corner. The thicker angle, particularly if radiused,
will need more force to bend.

Hope this is a help not a hindrance.

Malcolm Hunt
CH601XL plans builder in England
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