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 Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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Hi folks
Am wanting to use the cigarette lighter outlet in my shrike to plug in my mobile phone adapter etc.
Anyone know off the top of their head whether the output from the outlet is 12 or 24 volts?
Dave
Dr David Fitzgerald
BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago)
CASA Medical Officer
Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair
Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer
Registrar in Occupational Medicine
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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Mine is definitely 24 volts as I cooked a DVD player that stated not to plug into 24v.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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I fly an AC-68 (Commander 680 FLP) and have a cigarette plug extension for the boss so he can use his phone charger from his seat. I don't know if the lighter socket is 12 or 24 volts but I think phone chargers adapt to a variety of voltages. We have no problem in our plane.
RM
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DavidFitzgerald(at)bigpon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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Thanks guys. The adapter of my phone etc is 12V – I might not plug it in!
Dr David Fitzgerald
BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago)
CASA Medical Officer
Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair
Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer
Registrar in Occupational Medicine
DavidFitzgerald(at)bigpond.com (DavidFitzgerald(at)bigpond.com)
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Mine is definitely 24 volts as I cooked a DVD player that stated not to plug into 24v.
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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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That's one sure-fire way to check the voltage!
Robert S. Randazzo
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Subject: RE: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S
Mine is definitely 24 volts as I cooked a DVD player that stated not to plug into 24v.
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From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Fitzgerald
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:10 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S
Hi folks
Am wanting to use the cigarette lighter outlet in my shrike to plug in my mobile phone adapter etc.
Anyone know off the top of their head whether the output from the outlet is 12 or 24 volts?
Dave
Dr David Fitzgerald
BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago)
CASA Medical Officer
Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair
Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer
Registrar in Occupational Medicine
DavidFitzgerald(at)bigpond.com (DavidFitzgerald(at)bigpond.com)
mob 0438 312973
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of MASON CHEVAILLIER
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:51 AM
To: commander-list
Subject: FW: This is Crazy Cool. How to charge an Ipod with an Onion!
to all have a safe and happy thanksgiving. mason
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:37:18 -0800
From: george.chevaillier(at)gmail.com
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Subject: This is Crazy Cool. How to charge an Ipod with an Onion!
So I was getting on Utube to watch a couple of Wolfmother (awesome band, think Led Zeppelin meet Old Ozzy) videos, and this was on the front page. I was intrigued, so I watched it and it really is as easy as you think it is going to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfPJeDssBOM
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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Good Evening Robert and anyone else who may have occasion to use a cigarette lighter plug for powering other devices.
I have no idea how things are done in various Aero Commanders, but Beechcraft has done a couple of things that could be confusing to a Baron pilot.
The early Barons had a large resistor in the cigarette lighter circuit that was supposed to have about the same resistance as the lighter which was to be heated. That allowed a twelve volt lighter to be used.
If you checked the voltage with no load, you would read twenty-four volts. If you plugged in a twenty-four volt device that required a fair amount of current, it would get much less voltage. The voltage, of course, being a balance between the current required by the unit and the current shed by the larger resistor.
Ohm's Law and all that stuff.
If you plugged in a very low draw device such as a phone charger, it received almost the full twenty-eight volts that would be supplied by the alternators or generators. On later airplanes, Beech has taken out the resistor and found a source for twenty-eight volt cigarette lighters.
Be careful what voltage IS available and be sure to check to see whether or not AC ever tried to do the same thing Beech did with the early Barons!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
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Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
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In a message dated 11/22/2007 10:35:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, rsrandazzo(at)precisionmanuals.com writes:
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jtaddington(at)verizon.ne
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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Check it with a volt meter, then you will know. I put a 24V to 12V converter in my 500A and wired the socket to that, it works fine.
Jim Addington
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Subject: RE: Commander-List: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S
Thanks guys. The adapter of my phone etc is 12V – I might not plug it in!
Dr David Fitzgerald
BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago)
CASA Medical Officer
Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair
Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer
Registrar in Occupational Medicine
DavidFitzgerald(at)bigpond.com (DavidFitzgerald(at)bigpond.com)
mob 0438 312973
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Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:44 PM
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Subject: RE: Commander-List: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S
Mine is definitely 24 volts as I cooked a DVD player that stated not to plug into 24v.
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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Good Evening Jim,
In addition to using a voltmeter, you could check the feed line for resistance. If there has been a dropping resistor installed, the voltage will not be a true indication. The other way to check would be to check with a substantial load applied.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/22/2007 11:10:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, jtaddington(at)verizon.net writes:
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Check it with a volt meter, then you will know. I put a 24V to 12V converter in my 500A and wired the socket to that, it works fine.
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Check out AOL Money & Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007.
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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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I have just installed a 28VDC to 13.5VDC converter that will handle 18 amps. All five outlets in the cabin and cockpit will be supplied by that unit.
Tom C-GISS
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: voltage output of cigarette lighter outlet in 500S |
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Good Morning Tom,
Since I have the same sort of unit in my twenty-four volt Bonanza, I think that is a great idea!
It is probably a good idea to clearly label the outlets as to their voltage though.
However, I have one twelve volt and one twenty-four volt outlet in the cockpit area. Labeling may not be as important if all are the same.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 11/23/2007 12:00:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, tfisher(at)commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
| Quote: | I have just installed a 28VDC to 13.5VDC converter that will handle 18 amps. All five outlets in the cabin and cockpit will be supplied by that unit.
Tom C-GISS
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