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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

Okay don't hurt me because I'm building a Kitfox, but your list is helpful in finding stuff. The compass will be installed on the overhead tubing that the windshield drapes over.

I have been looking for a Falcon Vertical Card Compass. This is on back order from every company I talk to. I would at least like to have a template of the mounting bracket supplied with the compass so I can weld an overhead mounting plate before the windshield install.

George
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

George, I don't want to shortchange your intelligence, or start something, but the best advise I can give is to do a lot of research. I, too, wanted a vertical card compass, because it looks right and it reads right. However, in my research, I found way too many reports that the things just don't work. Be careful!

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Okay don't hurt me because I'm building a Kitfox, but your list is helpful in finding stuff. The compass will be installed on the overhead tubing that the windshield drapes over.

I have been looking for a Falcon Vertical Card Compass. This is on back order from every company I talk to. I would at least like to have a template of the mounting bracket supplied with the compass so I can weld an overhead mounting plate before the windshield install.

George



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

George, I'm not sure if this is an apples and oranges comparison or not, but I bought a vertical card compass form an outfit called "Falcon Gauge" for my fat ultralight a few years ago. Their stuff is reasonably priced with the vertical card compass being a bit over $200 . The gauges are Asian made and mostly okay but the vertical card compass went haywire almost immediately. Apparently the linkage is rather delicate and the vibration made it FUBAR in no time at all. I don't know if Falcon instruments are the same stuff as what I got from Falcon Gauge but beware.

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Okay don't hurt me because I'm building a Kitfox, but your list is helpful in finding stuff. The compass will be installed on the overhead tubing that the windshield drapes over.

I have been looking for a Falcon Vertical Card Compass.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

The exception would be one that has an electronic display derived from a remote magnetometer rather than one with a magnet driving a complicted and delicate linkage.

Dred

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George, I don't want to shortchange your intelligence, or start something, but the best advise I can give is to do a lot of research. I, too, wanted a vertical card compass, because it looks right and it reads right. However, in my research, I found way too many reports that the things just don't work. Be careful!

Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J


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> Okay don't hurt me because I'm building a Kitfox, but your list is helpful in finding stuff. The compass will be installed on the overhead tubing that the windshield drapes over.
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> I have been looking for a Falcon Vertical Card Compass. This is on back order from every company I talk to. I would at least like to have a template of the mounting bracket supplied with the compass so I can weld an overhead mounting plate before the windshield install.
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> George
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

George

I recall a thread about the Falcon Vertical Card Compasses in the past year
or so on one of the forums I read. My recollection is that the Falcon
compasses were not reliable, and that replacement was not possible. I
suggest that if you want a vertical card compass, buy the Precision
Vertical Card compass for $270 from Aircraft Spruce or wherever. On the
other hand if you want an inexpensive compass, buy a standard panel mount
compass like the one Van's sells for $100. Either way, you'll get a
reliable instrument. I suspect that it is not cheap to manufacture a
reliable vertical card compass.

Terry
At 09:31 AM 12/5/2007 -0800, you wrote:
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Okay don't hurt me because I'm building a Kitfox, but your list is helpful
in finding stuff. The compass will be installed on the overhead tubing
that the windshield drapes over.

I have been looking for a Falcon Vertical Card Compass. This is on back
order from every company I talk to. I would at least like to have a
template of the mounting bracket supplied with the compass so I can weld
an overhead mounting plate before the windshield install.

George


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

I have heard some guys talking about compass's and they have said the cheapest and most reliable one they found came straight from the auto parts store. I don't know if this is true or not but with a dynon and a GPS this is kind triple redundant so I could see how this might work but for 20 bucks what have you got to lose.

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George

I recall a thread about the Falcon Vertical Card Compasses in the past year
or so on one of the forums I read. My recollection is that the Falcon
compasses were not reliable, and that replacement was not possible. I
suggest that if you want a vertical card compass, buy the Precision
Vertical Card compass for $270 from Aircraft Spruce or wherever. On the
other hand if you want an inexpensive compass, buy a standard panel mount
compass like the one Van's sells for $100. Either way, you'll get a
reliable instrument. I suspect that it is not cheap to manufacture a
reliable vertical card compass.

Terry
At 09:31 AM 12/5/2007 -0800, you wrote:
Quote:
Okay don't hurt me because I'm building a Kitfox, but your list is helpful
in finding stuff. The compass will be installed on the overhead tubing
that the windshield drapes over.

I have been looking for a Falcon Vertical Card Compass. This is on back
order from every company I talk to. I would at least like to have a
template of the mounting bracket supplied with the compass so I can weld
an overhead mounting plate before the windshield install.

George


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

I originally had a Hamilton vertical card compass in my Zodiac. It worked fine when it wasn't actually in the airplane but I couldn't find a place either in the panel or on the glare shield where I could get the thing properly tuned in. It was too bulky to hang from the canopy. One day I saw an Airguide automotive compass at Walmart for $10. It had azimuth markings in 10 degree increments like an aircraft compass. I bought it and put it in my Jeep. I went through the calibration procedure detailed in the instructions and soon had it working accurately on all headings. I started wondering how well it would work in my plane. I attached it to the canopy above the glare shield and took the plane out on the ramp to do the calibration. In a short time I had the compass reading with acceptable accuracy on all headings. After a short test flight, I ripped the vertical card compass out of the plane and put it up for sale on eBay the next day.
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Okay don't hurt me because I'm building a Kitfox, but your list is helpful in finding stuff. The compass will be installed on the overhead tubing that the windshield drapes over.

I have been looking for a Falcon Vertical Card Compass. This is on back order from every company I talk to. I would at least like to have a template of the mounting bracket supplied with the compass so I can weld an overhead mounting plate before the windshield install.

George
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:49 pm    Post subject: Vertical Card Compass?? Reply with quote

I believe you still have to have a Boy Scout type compass to get it passed. Maybe someone has experiece getting it passed using the dynon compass or other electronic one. bob U.
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