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michaega(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

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jezim(at)pro-ns.net
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

Here is the question I asked EAA and there response.

 Jim Zimmerman

 Series 5 0-200  Building

  

  

  Hello,

 FAR 91.205 lists the instruments required for vfr flight of an aircraft  that has a standard category airworthiness certificate.  

 Where do I find the  requirements for an  experimental armature built aircraft?  (homebuilt  Kitfox)  Same thing?  Thank you. 

  

  For a  day VFR experimental aircraft, there are no minimum requirements.  You are  welcome to use 91.205 as a guide, but you are not required to abide by it.   However, if you plan to make the aircraft legal to operate at night (or under  IFR, which probably wouldn't be the case with a Kitfox), you will be required by  the aircraft's operating limitations to equip in accordance with 91.205.   But again, for day VFR flying there is no minimum equipment requirement for an  experimental amateur-built or ELSA aircraft.

  

 Joe Norris

EAA Aviation  Services

EAA Aviation Center, Oshkosh, WI

888-322-4636, extension  6806

jnorris(at)eaa.org

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Sbennett3(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

If you are a sport pilot you need  compass, volt  meter,tach,asi,atimeter,elt,oil pressure,oil temp,water temp,fuel  guage,compass,strobe lights. I just had a checkride yesterday and that was one  of the questions...  Oh ya, I took it in my kitfox, and I passed... Steve  Bennett



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thesupe(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

I don't remember that question on my SP test, although it was 2 1/2 years ago, also, if you have a air cooled 2 stroke, what do you hook the water temp, oil temp and oil pressure gauges to?  Also, I don't believe lights are required for dayVFR (only time a SP can fly anyway)  sorry,...   Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV  Jabiru

 PS congrats on passing the test!!

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		    From: Sbennett3(at)aol.com

Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:02:12 -0500

Subject: Re: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

  If you are a sport pilot you need  compass, volt meter,tach,asi,atimeter,elt,oil pressure,oil temp,water temp,fuel guage,compass,strobe lights. I just had a checkride yesterday and that was one of the questions...  Oh ya, I took it in my kitfox, and I passed... Steve Bennett

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Sbennett3(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

Thanks Jim on the congrats...   The  books that I studied were gleim and you know that you need to be category and  type specific. If you're flying a different configuration then I'm sure that  changes the answer. When the examiner asked the question, I just pictured my  panel. As far as the strobes, I saw it in my book, but I didn't read this from  the pts. 

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

Your memory is better than mine, Jim, and I took the test a year  

ago. : )  As I recall, you need an oil temp for an air cooled engine,  

or water temp for a water cooled engine, no strobe (optional),  

magnetic compass, air speed indicator, altimeter, tach, oil pressure,  

and a fuel gauge for each tank.

I can't find my info right now, or locate my FAR Part 9, Section  

91.33, or my Advisory Circular AC 20-27A, so I can't verify.....no, I  

didn't pull these numbers out of my head, but from Tony Bingelis's  

"The Sportplane Builder", and that's a few years old by now and  

certainly written before the Sport Pilot rule came into effect, but I  

think it still applies.



Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/440+ hrs

do not archive

On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:45 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I don't remember that question on my SP test, although it was 2 1/2  

 years ago, also, if you have a air cooled 2 stroke, what do you  

 hook the water temp, oil temp and oil pressure gauges to?  Also, I  

 don't believe lights are required for dayVFR (only time a SP can  

 fly anyway)  sorry,...   Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV  Jabiru

 PS congrats on passing the test!!

 From: Sbennett3(at)aol.com

 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:02:12 -0500

 Subject: Re: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com



 If you are a sport pilot you need  compass, volt  

 meter,tach,asi,atimeter,elt,oil pressure,oil temp,water temp,fuel  

 guage,compass,strobe lights. I just had a checkride yesterday and  

 that was one of the questions...  Oh ya, I took it in my kitfox,  

 and I passed... Steve Bennett



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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

thesupe(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

Of all of us here, I think the responce from Joe Norris with the EAA was the correct one.  I was just skimming through my ASA test prep book and I didn't see any mention of instruments required.  I've also had inspections of both of my Avids by the FAA and neither time did they look to see what instruments I had, only if they had yellow, green and red  zones.   Also  Lynn, I never got to mention to you that I liked your article in the sport pilot magazine.  Funny, but I know the guy that flew the Airbike to Oshgosh also from my time when I had the Himax and was a regular on the Team aircraft site.  Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV Jab



[quote] From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net

 Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:44:30 -0500

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

 

 Your memory is better than mine, Jim, and I took the test a year 

 ago. : ) As I recall, you need an oil temp for an air cooled engine, 

 or water temp for a water cooled engine, no strobe (optional), 

 magnetic compass, air speed indicator, altimeter, tach, oil pressure, 

 and a fuel gauge for each tank.

 I can't find my info right now, or locate my FAR Part 9, Section 

 91.33, or my Advisory Circular AC 20-27A, so I can't verify.....no, I 

 didn't pull these numbers out of my head, but from Tony Bingelis's 

 "The Sportplane Builder", and that's a few years old by now and 

 certainly written before the Sport Pilot rule came into effect, but I 

 think it still applies.

 

 Lynn Matteson

 Grass Lake, Michigan

 Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200

 flying w/440+ hrs

 do not archive

 

 

 On Dec 1, 2007, at 9:45 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:

 

 > I don't remember that question on my SP test, although it was 2 1/2 

 > years ago, also, if you have a air cooled 2 stroke, what do you 

 > hook the water temp, oil temp and oil pressure gauges to? Also, I 

 > don't believe lights are required for dayVFR (only time a SP can 

 > fly anyway) sorry,... Jim Chuk Avid MK IV Jabiru

 > PS congrats on passing the test!!

 >

 >

 > From: Sbennett3(at)aol.com

 > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:02:12 -0500

 > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

 > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 >

 > If you are a sport pilot you need compass, volt 

 > meter,tach,asi,atimeter,elt,oil pressure,oil temp,water temp,fuel 

 > guage,compass,strobe lights. I just had a checkride yesterday and 

 > that was one of the questions... Oh ya, I took it in my kitfox, 

 > and I passed... Steve Bennett

 >

 >

 >

 > .com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001 

 > href="http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007? 

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 > money wasters of 2007.

 > blank>http://www.matronics.com/contributionarget=_blank>http:// 

 > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-Listp://forums.matronics.com

 > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Connect now!_- 

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jezim(at)pro-ns.net
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

I believe the original question asked about experimental aircraft  instruments. The piece I sent from Joe Norris at EAA applied to  experimental, homebuilt aircraft. There may be other rules covering  E-LSA and LSA.   

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jose_m_toro(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

Congratulations Steve!

  

 José

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: Minimum VFR flight instrument requirements??

Glad you liked the article, Jim. Geez, it's almost time for the  

December issue.....guess my 15 minutes of fame is nearly over. : )

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/440+ hrs

do not archive

On Dec 1, 2007, at 11:28 PM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Of all of us here, I think the responce from Joe Norris with the  

 EAA was the correct one.  I was just skimming through my ASA test  

 prep book and I didn't see any mention of instruments required.   

 I've also had inspections of both of my Avids by the FAA and  

 neither time did they look to see what instruments I had, only if  

 they had yellow, green and red  zones.   Also  Lynn, I never got to  

 mention to you that I liked your article in the sport pilot  

 magazine.  Funny, but I know the guy that flew the Airbike to  

 Oshgosh also from my time when I had the Himax and was a regular on  

 the Team aircraft site.  Jim Chuk  Avid MK IV Jab

_________________
Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

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