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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: First time builder, need some advice:) Reply with quote

Great idea! Avgas could be hard to find on the other side of the world. I heard that Avgas is now unavailable at Le Borget in Paris. Auto gas may be hard to find without alcohol. Vapor lock would be an unpleasant experience crossing a mountain range at altitude. I just retired as a pilot for an international company that flies all over the world. I've got to say that you can find aviation turbine fuel in every remote corner of the world. The world is awash in kerosene. That points to a Diesel powerplant. They all burn Jet A and oddly, some are even approved for Auto Diesel (#2) fuel. A tip; if you find some JP 4, don't use it in a Diesel. Its a wide cut fuel that is aromatic with some characteristics of av gas. Use only in turbines. Some engines that meet C.H.'s weight/power criteria are: Wilksch in the UK. They have 100, 120 & 160 HP liquid cooled models that are flying on customer planes. Diesel Air LTD (also UK) has the DAIR 100 flying on a Luscombe. None delivered yet. The US project by Vulcan is called the Raptor 105 that is intended to compete head to head with the Rotax 912. Only a prototype so far. There is also the Centurion by Thielert that is at C.H.'s upper limit for weight and power. They won't sell you one unless your name is Cessna. Zoche in Germany has been on the verge of flying their line of radial air cooled Diesels for over 20 years now. There are others being delivered to customers that are higher weight and power, like DeltaHawk. If a Diesel is available for your first flight, it will likely be the Wilksch. Models are flying now in Pietenpol, Europa and Thorp T-211. If you do make the flight, take spare fuel filters with you and a funnel. Turbine fuel is dispensed through big honking nozzles. It weighs 6.8 lbs per US gallon Vs 6 for gas. A rule of thumb you can do in your head is 15 gal equals about 100 lbs. The higher density means your tanks now hold 13% more energy. Long range tanks with no modifications to the tanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: First time builder, need some advice:) Reply with quote

if you go to aero news network, on their video news section, there is a news report of a 110 hp Diesel (run on anything) engine. Looks quite simple to work on and within the prices of competition.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: First time builder, need some advice:) Reply with quote

and full tanks now weigh more as well...

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Great idea! Avgas could be hard to find on the other side of the world. I heard that Avgas is now unavailable at Le Borget in Paris. Auto gas may be hard to find without alcohol. Vapor lock would be an unpleasant experience crossing a mountain range at altitude. I just retired as a pilot for an international company that flies all over the world. I've got to say that you can find aviation turbine fuel in every remote corner of the world. The world is awash in kerosene. That points to a Diesel powerplant. They all burn Jet A and oddly, some are even approved for Auto Diesel (#2) fuel. A tip; if you find some JP 4, don't use it in a Diesel. Its a wide cut fuel that is aromatic with some characteristics of av gas. Use only in turbines. Some engines that meet C.H.'s weight/power criteria are: Wilksch in the UK. They have 100, 120 & 160 HP liquid cooled models that are flying on customer planes. Diesel Air LTD (also UK) has the DAIR 100 flying on a Luscombe. None delivered yet. The US project by Vulcan is called the Raptor 105 that is intended to compete head to head with the Rotax 912. Only a prototype so far. There is also the Centurion by Thielert that is at C.H.'s upper limit for weight and power. They won't sell you one unless your name is Cessna. Zoche in Germany has been on the verge of flying their line of radial air cooled Diesels for over 20 years now. There are others being delivered to customers that are higher weight and power, like DeltaHawk. If a Diesel is available for your first flight, it will likely be the Wilksch. Models are flying now in Pietenpol, Europa and Thorp T-211. If you do make the flight, take spare fuel filters with you [/b]
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