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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

Good evening gentlemen,

I'd have thought that Cessna had better marketing sense than to allow

China to become the manufacturing base for an aircraft that would be 

sold back to America.



Most of the people of "our generation" that can afford the plane, 

wouldn't buy any aircraft from

China on basic moral principals, regardless of price.  No more than we'd 

tolerate buying an automobile

from China regardless of the American sounding nameplate on the front. 



Any other friendly country would have been fine, like England, Japan, 

Poland, Czechoslovakia or Belgium.



*Never from China!  *Cessna can keep their plane. I wouldn't devalue my 

country's financial base that way!



Larry McFarland

EAA 9008455

Al Hays

Joined: 01 Oct 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Gore, VA

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

I've got to admit I'll be disappointed if most of the orders they  

have for the Skycatcher aren't cancelled after hearing it's to be  

manufactured by a company owned by the Chinese government.  It looks  

like they might just cover the $26.4 million they're paying for  

Columbia with the profit on about 528 Skycatchers.  You can bet there  

will be plenty of Chinese made rivets in it too.  Isn't there a U.S.  

or Canadian made alternative to Avex rivets for our Zeniths?

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Al Hays  601XL starting fuselage

EAA 0289545



On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:49 PM, LarryMcFarland wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <larry(at)macsmachine.com>



 Good evening gentlemen,

 I'd have thought that Cessna had better marketing sense than to allow

 China to become the manufacturing base for an aircraft that would  

 be sold back to America.



 Most of the people of "our generation" that can afford the plane,  

 wouldn't buy any aircraft from

 China on basic moral principals, regardless of price.  No more than  

 we'd tolerate buying an automobile

 from China regardless of the American sounding nameplate on the front.

 Any other friendly country would have been fine, like England,  

 Japan, Poland, Czechoslovakia or Belgium.



 *Never from China!  *Cessna can keep their plane. I wouldn't  

 devalue my country's financial base that way!



 Larry McFarland

 EAA 9008455

rjscep(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

 	  Quote: 	
		   Alas, poor people who have put deposits on the 

 Skycatcher. Remos Aircraft have honored those who  >

have. They are offering a $5000 reduction on the
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   base price of their Remos G-3 along with delivery in

 3 months. Remos will continue the offer to transfer

 Cessna deposit credits through Dec 31st 07....

 Happy New Year!!! do not archive...

 
	


--- Al Hays <alhays(at)hickoryhillfarmsheep.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <alhays(at)hickoryhillfarmsheep.com>

 

 I've got to admit I'll be disappointed if most of

 the orders they  

 have for the Skycatcher aren't cancelled after

 hearing it's to be  

 manufactured by a company owned by the Chinese

 government.  It looks  

 like they might just cover the $26.4 million they're

 paying for  

 Columbia with the profit on about 528 Skycatchers. 

 You can bet there  

 will be plenty of Chinese made rivets in it too. 

 Isn't there a U.S.  

 or Canadian made alternative to Avex rivets for our

 Zeniths?

 Do not archive

 

 Al Hays  601XL starting fuselage

 EAA 0289545

 

 On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:49 PM, LarryMcFarland wrote:

 

 > 

 

 > <larry(at)macsmachine.com>

 >

 > Good evening gentlemen,

 > I'd have thought that Cessna had better marketing

 sense than to allow

 > China to become the manufacturing base for an

 aircraft that would  

 > be sold back to America.

 >

 > Most of the people of "our generation" that can

 afford the plane,  

 > wouldn't buy any aircraft from

 > China on basic moral principals, regardless of

 price.  No more than  

 > we'd tolerate buying an automobile

 > from China regardless of the American sounding

 nameplate on the front.

 > Any other friendly country would have been fine,

 like England,  

 > Japan, Poland, Czechoslovakia or Belgium.

 >

 > *Never from China!  *Cessna can keep their plane.

 I wouldn't  

 > devalue my country's financial base that way!

 >

 > Larry McFarland

 > EAA 9008455

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 

 



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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

You guys must be living in some time warp.  The same factory which  will make the Skycatcher also already has made major stuctural parts for the  Boeing 757/767 series, some 3,500 Boeings are already flying the airlines with  parts from this factory.  The new Boeing 787 Dreamliner will be made with  major parts (wing leading edges if I recall) from this factory.  Airbus  Industries also contracts for major parts from this factory. What about  Canadian Bombardier Aircraft?  Yep, they are contracted to get major  components from same factory.  

  

 Are you going to fly only on aircraft NOT containing Chinese parts?   Not Boeing?  Not Airbus?  Not CRJ's?  If you boycott these  airliners, what planes will be left?  Not much.

  

 The only way Cessna can get the price of the 162 down to affordable levels  is to contract overseas.  Cessna is expanding its US based factories at the  same time they make this contract with China.  The purchase of Columbia in  Oregon is a major show of confidence in American manufacture.  Cessna has  also recently announced the formation of a new Cessna factory in Columbus,  Georgia.  This factory will make Cessna parts as well as McCauley (sp?)  propeller parts.

  

 Seems to me that my Textron Lycoming pistons were made in Brazil.

  

 Worried about Textron Avex rivets made in China?  Where does that come  from?  We should all know that they are made in England.

  

 What about Zenith?  Is it a US company, Canadian, or French?  Who  cares, the planes are outstanding.  By the way my Zodiac 601XL quick build  kit was made in Columbia, South America -- mine was #13 out of that  factory.  What about yours?  What about the new AMD Patriot? Also  from Columbia.

  

 Would I buy a Cessna 162 Skycatcher?  I already have $5,000 deposits  each on two of them.  I will continue to operate Zodiacs, but in a few  years, the 162 as well.  It will do good things to the general aviation  world.

  

 Cheers,

  

 Bob Archibald, Dragonfly Aviation

 CH601XL/Lycoming

 400 hours as a commercial trainer, and counting.

  

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

[quote]Ignoring the question of morality if you start walking around your house and throwing out things made in (or containing something made in) China you will find yourself nearly naked in a very empty house. And of course to be truly pure you should stop using Yahoo and Google as they have aided the Chinese government in putting dissidents in jail. In fact since much of the switching gear for the Internet is made in China for US or other companies I guess you will have to drop of the Internet too. Avoiding China is about as practical as avoiding oxygen or genetically modified food. And disentangling Chinese companies from the Chinese government is best left as a philosophical exercise. -- Craig Certainly do not archive [b]

shilcom

Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Posts: 63

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

I wasn't awayre that a specific country of origin  had been selected.  Last news release simply said it would not be made in  usa and that multiple sites were being considered.  bob U.

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: Re: On the Skycatcher by

This entire conversation is off topic for this forum. Please take it over to rec.aviation.*, though we had the discussion there a week or two ago.

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cj.tremblay(at)videotron.
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

I agree with you. But Chinese peoples, in China, have a chance to became the

big future market for this plane. Do we will see what happens with cars ?



Christian Tremblay

A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan

http://www.zodiac640.com/



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Good evening gentlemen,

I'd have thought that Cessna had better marketing sense than to allow

China to become the manufacturing base for an aircraft that would be 

sold back to America.



Most of the people of "our generation" that can afford the plane, 

wouldn't buy any aircraft from

China on basic moral principals, regardless of price.  No more than we'd 

tolerate buying an automobile

from China regardless of the American sounding nameplate on the front. 



Any other friendly country would have been fine, like England, Japan, 

Poland, Czechoslovakia or Belgium.



*Never from China!  *Cessna can keep their plane. I wouldn't devalue my 

country's financial base that way!



Larry McFarland

EAA 9008455

ter_turn(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: On the Skycatcher by "Cessna"

yep ! that 's it ... buy cheap ,  China  !  sell high   USA ...  same old 

story   Buy cheap,  Czech Republic  ! sell high USA... The only way you can 

inprove those odd  is ... to buy  Cheap, China  ,ship to Canada  And then 

...sell to people in the USA ! Think ..! about it     China, can't even 

make safe toys.  We should  buy airplanes from them ? Mabye we should see if 

we could get them to make us  a bach of parachutes and life jackets with our 

N number on them., they would be cheap,That is if you have them shipped 

direct to USA,and not to Canada first.... Think about it while you're poping 

those rivets            Joe N101HD

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