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DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

Here is an interesting read on the alternative  engine subject.

  

 http://www.prime-mover.org/Engines/GArticles/article2.html

  

 Dave Leikam

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gerf(at)gerf.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

Very interesting read ... thanks for  posting.

  

 Hope you don't mind but I'm going to post a link to the  article on a couple of other boards ...

  

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 Here is an interesting read on the alternative  engine subject.

  

 http://www.prime-mover.org/Engines/GArticles/article2.html

  

 Dave Leikam

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poneill(at)irealms.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

That’s a really interesting article.  Do you know when it was written?  

   

Best Regards,  

Patrick #40715 / N690CT  

         

  

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Here is an interesting read on the alternative engine subject.  

    

   

    

http://www.prime-mover.org/Engines/GArticles/article2.html  

    

   

    

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Tim Olson

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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: Alternative engines

Very interesting article.  Amazing you found that.



Coincidently, earlier this week someone sent me this link:

http://www.eggenfellneraircraft.com/Service%20and%20upgrades.htm



That kind of points to what's been one of the achillies heels

of those systems.  If it were free, it would perhaps be one

thing.  Would be nice to see someone give a shot at doing

a nice direct-drive system alternative.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Dave Leikam wrote:

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		   Here is an interesting read on the alternative engine subject.

  

 http://www.prime-mover.org/Engines/GArticles/article2.html

  

 Dave Leikam

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: Alternative engines

nice article!

Do not archive.

Rob.



On Dec 14, 2007, at 12:24 AM, Dave Leikam wrote:

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		  Here is an interesting read on the alternative engine subject.

 

http://www.prime-mover.org/Engines/GArticles/article2.html

 

Dave Leikam

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DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: Alternative engines

Go ahead and post it where ever you like, I found the article by chance 

while Googling around.  I have no idea when it was written, but I assume it 

is not too old.  It references Toyota's interest in building a small 4 seat 

GA airplane, and I remember hearing about that several years ago.



Dave Leikam

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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: Alternative engines

Dave Leikam wrote:

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 Go ahead and post it where ever you like, I found the article by

 chance while Googling around.  I have no idea when it was written, but

 I assume it is not too old.  It references Toyota's interest in

 building a small 4 seat GA airplane, and I remember hearing about that

 several years ago.


	


    I looked at the page info in Firefox (Tools, Page Info menu under

Linux), and it says this page was last modified on Nov 4, 1997.  No idea

if that is really the correct date it was published, though.  The

author's info is at the bottom of the web page, so I suppose we could

contact him and see...



    It would be interesting to find out about the Toyota research project.



-Dj



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Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ

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"Many things that are unexplainable happen during the construction of an 

airplane."  --Dave Prizio, 30 Aug 2005

GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:04 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

In a message dated 12/14/2007 1:46:17 PM Central Standard Time,  deej(at)deej.net writes:

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		  It would    be interesting to find out about the Toyota research  project. 	


 

 Toyota said about 4 years ago the stopped the 4 place/engine to  concentrate on their jet...which was on show at the last two  KOSH's...



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

Toyota has a jet?  I know of the Honda Jet, but haven't heard of the Toyota.

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 Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



 



On Dec 14, 2007, at 4:02 PM, GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com (GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com) wrote:

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		     In a message dated 12/14/2007 1:46:17 PM Central Standard Time, deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net) writes:

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		  It would   be interesting to find out about the Toyota research project. 	


 

 Toyota said about 4 years ago the stopped the 4 place/engine to concentrate on their jet...which was on show at the last two KOSH's...



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wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

You sure that was Toyota?  I haven't seen a Toyota jet at OSH, not that I see everything each year.  Toyota had a POC piston aircraft they were flying for a while but I think they abandoned it.  http://www.avweb.com/news/atis/181827-1.html



Honda on the other hand has had a jet at OSH for the past few years.  They have since decided to manufacturer this jet in Greensboro, NC. 



http://world.honda.com/HondaJet/



William

http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ 



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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

Sorry Jesse, it's the Honda jet, although I've read that Toyota also has  one under development which is why the dropped their GA program but who knows if  anything is accurate you read these days...including my missive...

  

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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: Alternative engines

The article appears to be about 10 years old. Cirrus and Thielert have

skewed all the basis.  The Continental Diesel has been abandoned.  The

Orenda goes way back with Lancairs. The Zoche Diesel is still a research

project and Mooney is long out of this Alternate Engine hunt.



It was fun reading.



John Cox



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etekberg(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: Alternative engines

I would say it is more than 10 years old, probably 15+.  The article references 1990 as a modern date for auto engines.  It also mentions that "modern" cars have been reducing weight - which is the exact opposite of what has been happening in the last couple of decades.  Automobiles have been getting heavier and heavier with every generation.  They have been adding safety and convenience features, but at the expense of weight (and cost).   It was a good read none the less.  Thanks 

 Eric

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 On Dec 14, 2007 4:52 PM, John W. Cox <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com (johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com)> wrote:

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The article appears to be about 10 years old. Cirrus and Thielert have

skewed all the basis.  The Continental Diesel has been abandoned.  The

Orenda goes way back with Lancairs. The Zoche Diesel is still a research 

project and Mooney is long out of this Alternate Engine hunt.



It was fun reading.



John Cox

 

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