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KITFOX(at)CHOICECABLE.NET
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

HELLO: LIST

  

 I AM INTEREST  TO   INSTALL AMPHIB. LOTUS TO MY CLASSIC IV. IT HAVE A 80 HP ENGINE  ."VERNER"  

 DO I NEED TO TEST ANY PERFORMANCE BEFORE TO BE SURE  THAT FLOATS WILL BE A GOOD OPTION!!! 

 DO LOTUS ARE THE LIGHTEST ON MARKET?

 WHAT ABOUT THE BRAKES ON IT?

 IT WILL BE USED IN SALT WATER!!!!!!

  

 NEED  HELP ON MY  DESITION....

  

 SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH...

  

 PEDRO PEREZ

 KITFOX - CLASSIC IV W/ VERNER ENGINE IN    PUERTO RICO

  

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dave

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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

Pedro,



What is your performance numbers now and empty weight ? 



Full lotus will work but not as aerodynamic as others.

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KITFOX(at)CHOICECABLE.NET
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

CRUISE 65 TO  75 MPH

 EMPTY WEIGHT: 630 

  

  

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dave

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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

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		  CRUISE 65 TO 75 MPH 

EMPTY WEIGHT: 630 

	




Empty weight is  good.



Cruise seems a bit slow ? 



how long is your take off run on wheels and what climb rate do you get ?

KITFOX(at)CHOICECABLE.NET
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

ABOUT 500 FTS. RUN FOR TAKE OFF  &   500 FTS/PER MIN CLIMB  WITH WIND IN 

CALM

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

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		  KITFOX(at)CHOICECABLE.NET Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? 



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ABOUT 500 FTS. RUN FOR TAKE OFF & 500 FTS/PER MIN CLIMB WITH WIND IN 

CALM 

 

 	




Is that on wheels ? If so --  your float operations will be marginal at best.

dcaofak(at)acsalaska.net
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

Hi Pedro,

 I have Full Lotus amphibs on my model 3 (empty  weight 440 lbs).  When sitting on the amphib gear the front spreader bar  bends about 1 to 1 1/2 inches in the center (Skystar supplied rigging).   This would probably not be a problem if EVERY wheel landing was perfect.  I  am not even close to being that good of a pilot.  I only use the wheels to  move the Kitfox around the ramp, and remove them once I get into the  water.  My cruise is about the same as yours, about 70 mph.

 We've had plenty of cold, but just got enough  snow.  Looking forward to ski flying, the best there is.

 Regards,

 John Stoner

 KF III, 582

 Alaska

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KITFOX(at)CHOICECABLE.NET
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

IF OUR FOX ARE TAIL WHEEL  HOW DO  NOSE  WHEEL ACT WITH FLOATS. WE DO NOT HAVE NOSE GEAR?

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

Pedro ,



the point i was making was the performance you have with your vernier engine  on wheels might not be good enough to support your plane on floats.

dcaofak(at)acsalaska.net
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???

The amphib gear I got from Full Lotus is  conventional gear, that is taildragger.  I use the mounting points for the  tail wheels to mount the water rudders.

 Regards,

 John Stoner

 KF III, 582

 Alaska

  

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		  IF OUR FOX ARE TAIL WHEEL  HOW DO  NOSE WHEEL ACT WITH FLOATS. WE DO NOT 

HAVE NOSE GEAR?> 	


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