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Does anybody have experience on installing a Lycoming 0-235 in a KF mod III? I know of one in a IV mod on floats. I have a Mod III set up for a 912. I don't have a 912 engine and was planning on putting in a 582, but would rather have a 4 stroke without a gear reduction.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> You might consider the Jab. 2200. Good engine, four stroke, air cooled and 2000 hrs TBO. 0-235 probably a wee bit heavy.
Dee Young
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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I'll second that suggestion....only one carb to mess with, no coolant
problems, no gearbox whine...I've got 450 hours on mine with only
minor "growing pains."
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/450+ hrs
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On Dec 23, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Dee Young wrote:
[quote] You might consider the Jab. 2200. Good engine, four stroke, air
cooled and 2000 hrs TBO. 0-235 probably a wee bit heavy.
Dee Young
Model II
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kitfoxjunky(at)decisionla
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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How about an 80 HP AeroVee? The Sonex uses that engine and it seems to be well proven for aircraft. The cost new is only $ 6500. Not sure the installed weight vs a 912 but the engine itself with electric starter and alternator (less the exhaust and oil) is only 158 LBS. The spec on the 912 is 125 LBS. From the Lycoming internet site I get the 0-235 weight at 243 IBS. That in my opinion is simply too much weight up front for a Kitfox. The plane will not handle as it was intended. You see the odd 0-200 Powered Kitfox (that engine is about 200 LBS), but I think the weight is the factor with the 235 series.
Anyone ever hear of an AeroVee in a Kitox?
http://www.aeroconversions.com/
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
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www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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"Pat Reilly" <patreilly43(at)hotmail.com>
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Subject: kitfox III 0-235
Does anybody have experience on installing a Lycoming 0-235 in a KF mod III? I know of one in a IV mod on floats. I have a Mod III set up for a 912. I don't have a 912 engine and was planning on putting in a 582, but would rather have a 4 stroke without a gear reduction.
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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Does that include coolant and radiator? The Jab 2200 is spec'd at
132...you provide your own "coolant" : ) Seriously, I've never
weighed my engine, but it's hard to see how the 912 could be any
lighter, ready to fly.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/450+ hrs
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On Dec 24, 2007, at 7:34 AM, kitfoxjunky wrote:
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kitfoxjunky(at)decisionla
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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No coolant or radiator. That 125 lbs for the 912 was right from the spec sheet. Add the exhaust and oil and it is going to be at least as heavy as the Jab if not more.
KF IV Anphib 912S
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www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
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Does that include coolant and radiator? The Jab 2200 is spec'd at
132...you provide your own "coolant" : ) Seriously, I've never
weighed my engine, but it's hard to see how the 912 could be any
lighter, ready to fly.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/450+ hrs
do not archive
On Dec 24, 2007, at 7:34 AM, kitfoxjunky wrote:
> The spec on the 912 is 125 LBS.
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> Gary Walsh
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patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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Gary, Thanks for the reply. The 0-235 is just too heavy for the mod III kitfox from what I gather. I have a good 100 hr 582 Rotax firewall forward, so that will be the engine I use. It's the size engine the plane was originally designed for.
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To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: kitfox III 0-235
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:34:18 -0500
How about an 80 HP AeroVee? The Sonex uses that engine and it seems to be well proven for aircraft. The cost new is only $ 6500. Not sure the installed weight vs a 912 but the engine itself with electric starter and alternator (less the exhaust and oil) is only 158 LBS. The spec on the 912 is 125 LBS. From the Lycoming internet site I get the 0-235 weight at 243 IBS. That in my opinion is simply too much weight up front for a Kitfox. The plane will not handle as it was intended. You see the odd 0-200 Powered Kitfox (that engine is about 200 LBS), but I think the weight is the factor with the 235 series.
Anyone ever hear of an AeroVee in a Kitox?
http://www.aeroconversions.com/
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
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"Pat Reilly" <patreilly43(at)hotmail.com>
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Subject: kitfox III 0-235
Does anybody have experience on installing a Lycoming 0-235 in a KF mod III? I know of one in a IV mod on floats. I have a Mod III set up for a 912. I don't have a 912 engine and was planning on putting in a 582, but would rather have a 4 stroke without a gear reduction.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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Lynn, Thanks, From the advice I've gotten, the 0-235 is too heavy for the kitfox III. I'm going with the 582 I have and probably sell the 912 mount that came with the plane. Pat Reilly
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Subject: Re: kitfox III 0-235
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:35:28 -0500
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
I'll second that suggestion....only one carb to mess with, no coolant
problems, no gearbox whine...I've got 450 hours on mine with only
minor "growing pains."
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/450+ hrs
do not archive
On Dec 23, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Dee Young wrote:
> You might consider the Jab. 2200. Good engine, four stroke, air
> cooled and 2000 hrs TBO. 0-235 probably a wee bit heavy.
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> Dee Young
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: kitfox III 0-235 |
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Dee, Thanks for info. everybody says 0-235 too heavy. I'd love the Jab 2200 but I hav e agood 582. For now I guess I'll get her flying with the 2 stroke. Pat REilly
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Subject: Re: kitfox III 0-235
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:15:14 -0700
You might consider the Jab. 2200. Good engine, four stroke, air cooled and 2000 hrs TBO. 0-235 probably a wee bit heavy.
Dee Young
Model II
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