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Iberplanes
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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Location: Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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 Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: AMD & BRS |
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Hi there,
Is there a way to find the original installation plans for the BRS installed
on the AMD Version of the 601 XL ?
Thanks in advance,
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rsteele(at)rjsit.com
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: AMD & BRS |
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I don't think AMD has ever put a BRS in one of their planes. The
only installations I've run across have been developed by home-
builders, including the one on the BRS web site. It's not a very
pretty installation.
Ron
On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Iberplanes IGL wrote:
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Hi there,
Is there a way to find the original installation plans for the BRS
installed on the AMD Version of the 601 XL ?
Thanks in advance,
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Iberplanes
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: AMD & BRS |
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Hi,
It is listed as an option, and...
Aircraft Manufacturing & Development Co. (AMD) has completed their first BRS (Ballistic Recovery Systems) parachute installation in a Zodiac 601XL - SLSA. The aircraft was certified on January 30th 2007 at the production facilities in Eastman, Georgia
"Flying the Zodiac is super fun. Its excellent maneuverability and visibility are great features. Pilots and passengers are always looking at increasing safety features, and the BRS parachute provides that added security," stated John Degonia, AMD’s sales manager.
Take a look at: http://www.newplane.com/amd/amd/news/BRS_ZODIAC_FEB_2007.htm
As said, if anyone can get or know the plans for such an installation It would be kindly appreciated.
Take care,
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rsteele(at)rjsit.com
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: AMD & BRS |
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First I'd seen this. I too would like to take a look at it. The
others I've seen just didn't look to practical. Have you checked the
BRS web site?
Ron
On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Iberplanes wrote:
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Hi,
It is listed as an option, and...
Aircraft Manufacturing & Development Co. (AMD) has completed their
first BRS (Ballistic Recovery Systems) parachute installation in a
Zodiac 601XL - SLSA. The aircraft was certified on January 30th
2007 at the production facilities in Eastman, Georgia
"Flying the Zodiac is super fun. Its excellent maneuverability and
visibility are great features. Pilots and passengers are always
looking at increasing safety features, and the BRS parachute
provides that added security," stated John Degonia, AMD’s sales
manager.
Take a look at: http://www.newplane.com/amd/amd/news/
BRS_ZODIAC_FEB_2007.htm
As said, if anyone can get or know the plans for such an
installation It would be kindly appreciated.
Take care,
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Alberto Martin
601 XL - Jabiru 3300
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Iberplanes
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: AMD & BRS |
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Hi,
I´ve contacted BRS and this is what I´ve got.......
Dear Albert:
Thank you for taking the time to register your information on the BRS web
site. You have been added to our database as intersted in a zodiax 601 XL.
Your information has been logged.
Begining on November 1st 2007 this email will not be direclty answered. If
you have an applicaition question, an order follow up or need more
information than is on our web site. Please call us at 651-457-7491
For Ultralight/Sport questions please call Gregg Ellsworth. For Qestions
related to Cessna please call John Gilmore.
For Marketing or non aviation questions please call Gary Moore.
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paulrod36(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: AMD & BRS |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> About 18 months ago, I contacted BRS, for information on pricing, weights, and installation. They e-mailed me the installation sheets on how it's done. Not being smart enough to figure how to send the sheets, let me give you a verbal rundown: The chute and its rocket go into the rear area of the baggage shelf, with four main straps that go outside the fuselage. The two front straps go along the fuselage, through a hole just about forward of the rudder pedal, where they attach to a ring. That ring goes to a short strap that goes to a hefty cross-bar on the forward side of the firewall. The rear straps go back into the fusalage through a round hole, to similar rings, which in turn are strapped to hefty bars under the fuselage bottom skin. After deployment, the four straps hold the fuse in a level attitude The setup, although not particularly esthetic, is simple and strong. My plan is to add another bulkhead to separate the rocket from the baggage compartment, and to add .016 "false skins" riveted at approximately the wing root, and held at sides and top with a single bead of silicone sealer, to cover the straps. I figure the straps will tear away the silicone and deploy vertically. I seem to recall that some other 601 builer covered the straps with wide hat sections, and rounded pie plates to cover the strap ports.
Hope this helps.
Paul Rodriguez
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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: AMD & BRS |
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You are probably thinking of Scott Laughlin’s BRS. His is the best and cleanest installation I have ever seen on a metal plane:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/BRS.html
BTW: Zenith has beefed-up the top motor mounts/canopy hinge into a steel triangle (about 4 inches wide at the firewall and 8 inches long). This is so the straps of a BRS can be attached. But I have yet to see a BRS installation that utilizes the new bracket.
-- Craig
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Subject: Re: Re: AMD & BRS
About 18 months ago, I contacted BRS, for information on pricing, weights, and installation. They e-mailed me the installation sheets on how it's done. Not being smart enough to figure how to send the sheets, let me give you a verbal rundown: The chute and its rocket go into the rear area of the baggage shelf, with four main straps that go outside the fuselage. The two front straps go along the fuselage, through a hole just about forward of the rudder pedal, where they attach to a ring. That ring goes to a short strap that goes to a hefty cross-bar on the forward side of the firewall. The rear straps go back into the fusalage through a round hole, to similar rings, which in turn are strapped to hefty bars under the fuselage bottom skin. After deployment, the four straps hold the fuse in a level attitude The setup, although not particularly esthetic, is simple and strong. My plan is to add another bulkhead to separate the rocket from the baggage compartment, and to add .016 "false skins" riveted at approximately the wing root, and held at sides and top with a single bead of silicone sealer, to cover the straps. I figure the straps will tear away the silicone and deploy vertically. I seem to recall that some other 601 builer covered the straps with wide hat sections, and rounded pie plates to cover the strap ports.
Hope this helps.
Paul Rodriguez
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PatrickW
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: Re: AMD & BRS |
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Here are some photos of an AMD 601 XLi with the BRS parachute: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/AMD601XLBRS
When I visited the Zenith booth at Oshkosh last year, there was a BRS employee speaking with Sebastion. He said that new BRS brackets were going to be standard on 601XL's. The new brackets would allow people to build their 601XL's without the BRS, but would more easily allow a builder to retrofit a BRS installation at some point in the future if they chose.
I've since received my fuselage, and have taken some photographs of the BRS brackets which are shared here: http://picasaweb.google.com/Patrick.Hoyt/Zenith601XLBRSBrackets
I'm interested in seeing and sharing info with anyone else who's installing a BRS. Apparently there's a fair amount of interest in this.
You guys who've already done it - is there any pointers you can share? Would you do anything different knowing what you know now...?
Patrick
XL/Corvair
N63PZ
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