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f1boss(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

As an option to spending your hard earned cash on special order brake fluid, you can purchase the same stuff from your local auto parts store, but it will be labeled synthetic automatic transmission fluid....



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ronlee(at)pcisys.net
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

Can you provide a source that substantiates  this?  

  

 Since I have not added anything to my brake system  since

 I bought it but may make some mods to improve its  durability,

 I may add such fluid.

  

 I believe that you never use automotive brake  fluid in aircraft

 brake systems.  Is that correct?   I  have heard of using auto

 transmission fluid but would like confirmation from  those more

 knowing about it.

  

 Ron Lee

  

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rocketbob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

A couple of years back I studied the spec sheets for Aeroshell Fluid 30 and Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF and found they are virtually the same (composition, flash point, viscosities, etc.).  I would have to guess that there are at least 20 RV's/Rockets I know of (mine included) that have been flying for years without any leaks, drips, flames, etc. using ATF in the brake lines. 



If I were a betting man I'd bet the newer replacements for 5606 are rebranded automatic transmission fluid.



About $6.00/qt at your local Walmart.



Its been known that urine, bottled water, soft drinks will work as a fluid in hydraulic systems in a pinch, FWIW...  IMO opinion these fluids are superior to 5606, as unfortunately original poster found out the hard way.  O-rings in the system wouldn't last long with these fluids though. 



Regards,

Bob Japundza

RV-6 flying F1 under const.



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Ed Anderson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

I don't know - so can't comment on ATF - as suitable brake  fluid.  But, as Bob said, I found out the hard way about the flammability  of the 5606 - fortunately without destroying my aircraft.  You may never  have a brake line failure (hopefully), and if you do it may not ignite, however,  trust me once is more than enough.  If you can't get rolling is one thing -  not being able to get stopped is a horse of different color.

  

 Ed

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kboatright1(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

Which leads to the next question:   

  

 What's a good way to purge the system of 5606 and  refill with ATF?  Would it suffice to cycle a pint (?) of ATF through the  system by using the brake pedals to push it through to force out the  5606?

  

 KB

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Ed Anderson

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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

KB, I don't know about the ATF - but the new 83282 if  fully compatible with the older 5606, you can even mix the two although the  flash point will not be as high as pure 83282.  So there is no requirement  to get the last drop of the  5606 out of the system.  Presumably if  the ATF is the same liquid as the 83282 then you could do the same. IF they are  the same.

  

 Ed

  

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rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.ne
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

I may have missed the post that mentions where to purchase Mil-H-83282 brake fluid. Could someone tell me where I can purchase it?

 

 Thanks in advance.

 

 Richard Dudley

 RV-6A flying

 

 Kyle Boatright wrote:

 [quote]            Which leads to the next question:  

    

   What's a good way to purge the system of 5606 and refill with ATF?  Would it suffice to cycle a pint (?) of ATF through the system by using the brake pedals to push it through to force out the 5606?

    

   KB

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		       ----- Original Message ----- 

     From:     Bob J. (rocketbob(at)gmail.com) 

     To:     rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)     

     Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:27 AM

     Subject: Re: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

     

     

 A couple of years back I studied the spec sheets for Aeroshell Fluid 30 and Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF and found they are virtually the same (composition, flash point, viscosities, etc.).  I would have to guess that there are at least 20 RV's/Rockets I know of (mine included) that have been flying for years without any leaks, drips, flames, etc. using ATF in the brake lines. 

     

 If I were a betting man I'd bet the newer replacements for 5606 are rebranded automatic transmission fluid.

     

 About $6.00/qt at your local Walmart.

     

 Its been known that urine, bottled water, soft drinks will work as a fluid in hydraulic systems in a pinch, FWIW...  IMO opinion these fluids are superior to 5606, as unfortunately original poster found out the hard way.  O-rings in the system wouldn't last long with these fluids though. 

     

 Regards,

 Bob Japundza

 RV-6 flying F1 under const.

     

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Ed Anderson

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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

There are a number of places, Richard, but here is where I  got mine.  Only down side is  the minimum order is 1 gallon at  $25.00.  It's the 4th product on the list MIL-PRF-83282.   

 http://commerce.acilubes.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=7

 Ed

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rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.ne
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

Thanks,  Ed.

 Richard Dudley

 Do not archive

 

 Ed Anderson wrote:

 [quote]            There are a number of places, Richard, but here is where I got mine.  Only down side is  the minimum order is 1 gallon at $25.00.  It's the 4th product on the list MIL-PRF-83282.  

   http://commerce.acilubes.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=7

   Ed

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		       ----- Original Message ----- 

     From:     Richard Dudley (rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.net) 

     To:     rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)     

     Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:53 PM

     Subject: Re: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

     

     

 I may have missed the post that mentions where to purchase Mil-H-83282 brake fluid. Could someone tell me where I can purchase it?

     

 Thanks in advance.

     

 Richard Dudley

 RV-6A flying

     

 Kyle Boatright wrote:

      	  Quote: 	
		                       Which leads to the next question:  

        

       What's a good way to purge the system of 5606 and refill with ATF?  Would it suffice to cycle a pint (?) of ATF through the system by using the brake pedals to push it through to force out the 5606?

        

       KB

        	  Quote: 	
		           ----- Original Message ----- 

         From:         Bob J. (rocketbob(at)gmail.com) 

         To:         rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com) 

         Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:27 AM

         Subject: Re: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

         

         

 A couple of years back I studied the spec sheets for Aeroshell Fluid 30 and Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF and found they are virtually the same (composition, flash point, viscosities, etc.).  I would have to guess that there are at least 20 RV's/Rockets I know of (mine included) that have been flying for years without any leaks, drips, flames, etc. using ATF in the brake lines. 

         

 If I were a betting man I'd bet the newer replacements for 5606 are rebranded automatic transmission fluid.

         

 About $6.00/qt at your local Walmart.

         

 Its been known that urine, bottled water, soft drinks will work as a fluid in hydraulic systems in a pinch, FWIW...  IMO opinion these fluids are superior to 5606, as unfortunately original poster found out the hard way.  O-rings in the system wouldn't last long with these fluids though. 

         

 Regards,

 Bob Japundza

 RV-6 flying F1 under const.

         

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randy(at)romeolima.com
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

More info here...

 http://www.romeolima.com/RV3hq/Maintenance/maintenance.html#BrakeFluid

  

 Purchase it here...

 http://commerce.acilubes.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=7

  

  

 Randy Lervold

  

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rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.ne
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

Thanks Randy,

 RHDudley

 Do no archive

 

 Randy Lervold wrote:

 [quote]            More info here...

   http://www.romeolima.com/RV3hq/Maintenance/maintenance.html#BrakeFluid

    

   Purchase it here...

   http://commerce.acilubes.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=7

    

    

   Randy Lervold

    

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		       ----- Original Message ----- 

     From:     Richard Dudley (rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.net) 

     To:     rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)     

     Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:53 AM

     Subject: Re: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

     

     

 I may have missed the post that mentions where to purchase Mil-H-83282 brake fluid. Could someone tell me where I can purchase it?

     

 Thanks in advance.

     

 Richard Dudley

 RV-6A flying

     

 Kyle Boatright wrote:

      	  Quote: 	
		                       Which leads to the next question:  

        

       What's a good way to purge the system of 5606 and refill with ATF?  Would it suffice to cycle a pint (?) of ATF through the system by using the brake pedals to push it through to force out the 5606?

        

       KB

        	  Quote: 	
		           ----- Original Message ----- 

         From:         Bob J. (rocketbob(at)gmail.com) 

         To:         rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com) 

         Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 10:27 AM

         Subject: Re: synthetic brake fluid -- available locally

         

         

 A couple of years back I studied the spec sheets for Aeroshell Fluid 30 and Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF and found they are virtually the same (composition, flash point, viscosities, etc.).  I would have to guess that there are at least 20 RV's/Rockets I know of (mine included) that have been flying for years without any leaks, drips, flames, etc. using ATF in the brake lines. 

         

 If I were a betting man I'd bet the newer replacements for 5606 are rebranded automatic transmission fluid.

         

 About $6.00/qt at your local Walmart.

         

 Its been known that urine, bottled water, soft drinks will work as a fluid in hydraulic systems in a pinch, FWIW...  IMO opinion these fluids are superior to 5606, as unfortunately original poster found out the hard way.  O-rings in the system wouldn't last long with these fluids though. 

         

 Regards,

 Bob Japundza

 RV-6 flying F1 under const.

         

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