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jrgowing(at)bigpond.net.a
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

Fellow builders



My study of Mod 73 tells me that we are to put a 10mm piece of masking tape 

on the underneath face of the TP6's to cover the hole and then two layers of 

bid (1" squares)  perhaps added to some dregs of dry flox used to fill the 

corners of the hole in the skin, and then another two layers of bid from the 

8" squares of bid that keep the TP 6 in place.



When I put a pip-pin throught the dry TP6 there appeared to be about 1.5mm 

of clearance to the protruding balls.



As I am ready to lay glass,  My question is please ---------



Has anyone done the Mod 73 Job and been able to still use their original pip 

pins?



In other words - is it worth striving to keep cover over the TP6 as thin as 

possible?

Or is it just impossible to retain use of the  original  pip pins?



Sincerely

JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit No 327 in Oz as I try to complete tailplanes before 

filling them.

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Brian Davies

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

Hi Bob,



Going by the survey that was done when the mod first came out, most people

used longer pins. 



Regards



Brian Davies Kit 454



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

Hi! Bob G

I managed to use the original pip pins.(especially difficult in my case

since I originally put them in at an angle ) They work as proscribed but

I  have screw caps which act as a secondary "keeper" also.

Regards

Bob Harrison. G-PTAG



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  I have a 50 % success rate with 4 done now.  The more glass, the  longer the pin.  Both XS aircraft built prototypically worked with the old  pins.  The Classic and a custom built moded tail plane (had a PVC threaded  cover) needed longer pins.  I cheat, as I have extra Classic and XS pitch  tubes to allow me to glass the whole thing up on the bench.

  

 Carr Lane supplies 2 inch long pins that work great.  About $16  each.

 Bud Yerly

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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

Dear Alfred Buess



Thank you for your reply too!

I found my original job on the wing pins to be good; but as you say it was 

reassuring to have another look at previous work.



Best Wishes

JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

Thank you Bob Harrison



You are about the 3rd reply and they are all positive - at which I am 

surprised!



- isn't this Matronics facility a marvel? I feel that I already know you 

from your postings, and from Kingsley Hurst who visited you in the UK.



Best Wishes and thanks again

JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz



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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

Dear Brian Davies



I had thought that longer pins were almost surely needed and wanted to cut 

the cover to the minimum as I understand that the long pins are expensive 

for something that we should not have had to do.



However it looks as if they probably  will not be needed......



Thank you for your reply.



JR (Bob ) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz



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Troy Maynor

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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Europa Mandatory Mod 73 - re -use of original Pip-Pins throu

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In other words - is it worth striving to keep cover over the TP6 as thin as 

possible?

Or is it just impossible to retain use of the  original  pip pins?

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Bob, 
	


I was able to reuse the original pins with no problem. I followed the

directions and got lucky I guess. There's a couple pix on the Forum gallery,

but there were taken before the holes were drilled out again. They're under

the section "flying surfaces".

Troy Maynor

N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic

Left to finish:

Paint,(some) interior,engine install, (some) wiring.

Weaverville, NC USA

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