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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: AW: auxillary fuel tank Reply with quote

Yes, you are correct. Walter Binder (Classic Monwheel - kit 149, first take-off March 96) is using wing tanks. But his Europa is a SPECIAL ONE.
Walter installs engines into glider and has constructed and flown a lot of gliders.The largest glider Antaris is his baby. He made also the test flights

His Classic Monwheel is equipped with Aluminium fuel tanks, the outriggers are retractable (using per side 12 volt accu drills), equipped with a tow bar facility from a Piper and some other changes. He is very involved in constructing Composite planes and he has built his Europa around his business. He his towing customer gliders cross country wide, flies to meetings etc. Meanwhile he has more than 900 hours on his Europa.

He bought the kit and changed it to his requirements, but it will be wasted time to ask him for details, as he made it out of experience.
We should prefer to take the kit as it is and not to argue about a lot of things, when we have just started building it. I know a lot of people, who started to change things (they thought just small ones) and came up in the end with some 100 hours more.
It is always easy to say: we could do this and that, but we are not able to do it.
By the way, some ideas how to install a parachute system (rescue)?

I wish the Europa Family a healthy 2008 with a lot of fun in building and flying.

Best regards,
Bruno Reith / Europa Aircraft Germany

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Betreff: RE: Europa-List: auxillary fuel tank


Yes I believe one of the European builders did wink tanks. Can anyone give more details



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: AW: auxillary fuel tank Reply with quote

Bruno
I remember meeting Walter briefly at Kirkbymoorside when he collected
his kit. He wasn't very familiar with English and my german is no better
but he had immense confidence at the time. I once saw the glider he
built for Hans Werner Grosse at Luebeck just after it took off, 30 meter
wingspan wasn't it? The wings were amazing, tips in flight must have
been at least a meter above the fuselage in a lovely smooth curve.
It's sad that Walter doesn't talk to us. He fitted the first extended
tailwheel years before the factory did it. His windsceen was much deeper
than ours which gives better visibility and he still cruised at 140kts
on an 80hp 912. He even towed gliders with it.
Pity he never worked for Europa factory! What an airplane we would have
had then!
Graham

UVTReith wrote:
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Yes, you are correct. Walter Binder (Classic Monwheel - kit 149, first
take-off March 96) is using wing tanks. But his Europa is a SPECIAL ONE.

Walter installs engines into glider and has constructed and flown a lot
of gliders.The largest glider Antaris is his baby. He made also the test
flights
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: AW: auxillary fuel tank Reply with quote

On Friday, Jan 4, 2008, at 16:41 US/Pacific, Graham Singleton wrote:

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I remember meeting Walter briefly at Kirkbymoorside...
His windsceen was much deeper than ours which gives better visibility
and he still cruised at 140kts on an 80hp 912.

Graham,

Could you elaborate on what you mean by "deeper"...?

Thanks,

Fred
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: AW: auxillary fuel tank Reply with quote

The top cowl was lower and the windscreen extended down to meet it. He
must have moulded his own screen.
Graham

Fred Klein wrote:
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On Friday, Jan 4, 2008, at 16:41 US/Pacific, Graham Singleton wrote:

> I remember meeting Walter briefly at Kirkbymoorside...
> His windsceen was much deeper than ours which gives better visibility
> and he still cruised at 140kts on an 80hp 912.


Graham,

Could you elaborate on what you mean by "deeper"...?

Thanks,

Fred



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: AW: auxillary fuel tank Reply with quote

It might be worth mentioning that the same type of mod was done to G-IRON, picture is in the EF.

Karl

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Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 09:53:23 +0000
From: grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton(at)btinternet.com>

The top cowl was lower and the windscreen extended down to meet it. He
must have moulded his own screen.
Graham

Fred Klein wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com>
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> On Friday, Jan 4, 2008, at 16:41 US/Pacific, Graham Singleton wrote:
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>> I remember meeting Walter briefly at Kirkbymoorside...
>> His windsceen was much deeper than ours which gives better visibility
>> and he still cruised at 140kts on an 80hp 912.
>
>
> Graham,
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> Could you elaborate on what you mean by "deeper"...?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
>
>

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