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garythomas8708(at)yahoo.c
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Hi everyone.
I've been lurking for about 18 months now and only just got around to subscribing.
In that period I've completed the airframe on a 601XL and finished my instrument panel with "just" the electrics and firewall forward to go.
The members on this list have been a huge help to me and this is my thank-you.
Those of you that deal with Caleb at Zenith know too what a huge help he can be.
I've also put together a Corvair engine with the help of William Wynne and his compadres (they generously started me off with a ride in their plane when I first visited). Those who have gone this route know what a rewarding experience this can be too.
I've gone from being an idiot about all things mechanical to now feeling that I can pretty much do anything with the right tools, preparation and information. It's a great feeling. I'm especially good at drilling out rivets.
The members of this list have been invaluable whenever I reached a hiccup (use of fuel-lube on leaky fuel sender, edge distance problems, fixing of canopy cracks). I've also picked up many useful tips - painting of the instruments panel, polishing (it's gonna be silver), and fixing an extrusion to the longeron to allow for a padlock.
I've also seen some speculation by the occasional member too lazy to do some simple fact checking before posting their speculation. Much of this relates to the Corvair; William gets understandably prickly about this, although his website certainly provides enough information for people to conduct their own research and see through the myths. Since there are now 17 of these powering 601's and Zenith has displayed one at every recent airshow. I urge you visit it, ask questions and then decide for yourself. I will say that it takes a long time to do for the first-timer because of the learning curve, but that's what we're in it for.
Now I think I am ready to start taking flying lessons 
Best wishes to all. I think we're all trying to do something pretty special.
Gary Thomas
Weston FL
601XL/Corvair
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rstone4(at)hot.rr.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: new subscriber |
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Gary,
I'm sure you saw my post about installing new fuel tank sump drains because of the originals leaking and requiring frequent change of the little O-ring seal. The Curtis sump drain valves I ordered from Acft Spruce are scheduled to arrive here on the 8th and I am wondering what to use for a thread sealant when I install them. Someone told me that Teflon is OK for any system other than a system where gas or oil comes in contact with the Teflon because it will melt it. If you know of a fuel resistant sealant, please advise.
Bob Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
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IFLYSMODEL(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: new subscriber |
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Hey Gary: Fuel Lube is the best product, but I do not think it is made/sold any more. Aircraft Spruce has some stuff they call EZ turn, which I have not used. Has anyone else used this stuff?
Spruce PN 09-00180 EZ TURN ( FUELUBE ) 1 LB CAN
A one pound can will last you forever.
Lynn Nelsen
Frostproof Fl 601 HD
Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
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bryanmmartin
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Teflon tape is not recommended for fuel systems. Not because it will
melt in the fuel but because removal and re-installation of the fittings
can result in tiny slivers of the tape getting into the lines and
causing problems downstream (eg. clogged carburetor jets or fuel
injectors). It's very difficult to get all the tape particles out of the
female threads. Teflon paste type sealers are fine, used sparingly, as
long as it's designed for use with gasoline. Teflon itself is impervious
to most solvents, but the paste that it is mixed in with may not be. You
can go down to the local auto parts store and get some product designed
to seal gasoline fittings. You should use a product that doesn't harden
but stays pliable. Permatex makes a good product for this that you can
get in a small tube for a reasonable price. In any case, don't overdo
it. A little dab will do ya. Keep the paste back from the end of the
fitting so it doesn't squeeze out inside the line. You don't want globs
of this stuff getting loose inside the lines either.
robert stone wrote:
| Quote: | Gary,
I'm sure you saw my post about installing new fuel tank sump drains
because of the originals leaking and requiring frequent change of the
little O-ring seal. The Curtis sump drain valves I ordered from Acft
Spruce are scheduled to arrive here on the 8th and I am wondering what
to use for a thread sealant when I install them. Someone told me that
Teflon is OK for any system other than a system where gas or oil comes
in contact with the Teflon because it will melt it. If you know of a
fuel resistant sealant, please advise.
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Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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klr12(at)psu.edu
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: new subscriber |
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Give Sealube (P/N 09-25200) or Bakerseal (P/N 09-00346) from Spruce a
try. Both are impervious to aviation fuels and have been used for years
in that application.
Kevin
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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: new subscriber |
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the rule I was taught way back when in A&P school was that all sealers should be kept at least 1½ threads away from the entry end of the threads. Also, in the event of flare fittings, there are dead soft aluminum flare washers that forgive a world of minor defects when assembling such systems. Don't over tighten the fittings or re-use the flare washers though...
Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin
Teflon tape is not recommended for fuel systems. Not because it will
melt in the fuel but because removal and re-installation of the fittings
can result in tiny slivers of the tape getting into the lines and
causing problems downstream (eg. clogged carburetor jets or fuel
injectors). It's very difficult to get all the tape particles out of the
female threads. Teflon paste type sealers are fine, used sparingly, as
long as it's designed for use with gasoline. Teflon itself is impervious
to most solvents, but the paste that it is mixed in with may not be. You
can go down to the local auto parts store and get some product designed
to seal gasoline fittings. You should use a product that doesn't harden
but stays pliable. Permatex makes a good product for this that you can
get in a small tube for a reasonable price. In any case, don't overdo
it. A little dab will do ya. Keep the paste back from the end of the
fitting so it doesn't squeeze out inside the line. You don't want globs
of this stuff getting loose inside the lines either.
robert stone wrote:
[quote] Gary,
I'm sure you saw my post about installing new fuel tank sump drains
because of the originals leaking and requiring frequent change of the
little O-ring seal. The Curtis sump drain Be a better friend, newshound, and [quote][b]
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rstone4(at)hot.rr.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: new subscriber |
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Bryan.
Thanks much for your lengthy response. I never even thought of going
to an auto supply to find something that is designed to use on fuel system
connectors.
Bob Stone
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