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kitfox(at)ida.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

Much to the dismay of our moderator, this has nothing to do with Kitfox. (I 

like to do that sometimes)  Without this, there there is no group.



THE DREAM

The first memory of my childhood is that of my father and me in the park. 

Flying. It was a model that he had built. He would throw it and the children 

of the neighborhood would run after it until it landed. That is until it was 

stepped on in the hurry to get it first. The closest one got to pick it up 

and bring it back. An honor and time I am sure long forgotten by all. Except 

one. I did not run after the plane. I stood in fascination. The beauty of it 

flitting around on the air. Nobody could touch it until it came back from 

the safety of the winds to the confines and rigors of the earth. I knew at 

that moment that I had to have that freedom, that safety.

Years of sitting at airports watching the planes come and go, the pilots 

with there air of superiority about them. Afraid ot let them catch me 

looking at them for what they might do. Amazed at how they handled those 

long wings on the ground. Maneuvering them between all the other planes that 

were parked. Then the day came. My father was taking flying lessons in an 

Aerocoupe. He was going to go do some solo time and the plane needed fuel. 

He told me to get in and steer it while he pushed it to the FBO. I do not 

know why the truck didn"t just drive down to it. I have a pretty good idea 

though. I climbed into the cockpit and settled into the seat. To short to 

see anything. I wasn't going to let that little inconvenience stop me 

though. I could stretch and see just fine. He showed me how to steer it. And 

as he climbed down, withour turning around said, "watch the wings, and keep 

it centered." We started to move. My dad, the power. Me at the controls. And 

boy did I watch the wings. Like a hawk on the first leap from the nest. It 

was only a few hundred feet to the truck. And I am sure it was kept somewhat 

centered. Which probably added another few hundreed feet. I did not say 

anything then. But dad could have pushed me back and forth all day long. I 

never told anybody, They would not believe me anyway. That was my private 

taste for the feeling of the freedom to flying. Like a child, it is not 

reality at first. Until one day, like conception, there is no turning back. 

And there it sits. Steel, Aluminum, plastic. A stranger in your area. Yet 

there is a bond that already  exists. You can feel it when you are near. I 

seems to reach out to you. And as that of the birth of a child. It starts. 

You mold and shape. Touch and check every square inch. Just waiting for the 

slightest hint of a problem. If there is, you attack it with ferocity. 

Defending your own blood. There are the doubters and the non beleavers. You 

don't listen. It doesn't matter what it does. Good or bad. You molded it 

after yourself, Its's perfect. It's the DREAM.

 This is what keeps us all together

john(at)leptron.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: Reality check, it is time

"Much to the dismay of our moderator, this has nothing to do with Kitfox. (I

like to do that sometimes)  Without this, there is no group."



Albert,

Our moderators have forgotten what the list is about. We have one who does

not want any friendship on the list and one who is king, he knows more than

anyone and will argue for page after page to prove it. I have thought hard

about quitting the list but like many us of feel we need the list for us and

the new builders, the experience's and energy behind this size group is

nothing to waste. 

I have been on the list since 92, I have built 2 kitfox, I have flown 8

different fox, dozens of other aircraft including war birds and heavy's. I

hoped my experiences have helped someone. I know at least one person that

was on the list what may have saved my life, pulling my cowl and pointing

out the broken motor mount. Every year I try to complete some update to the

bird, usually using information found on the list. I salute all of you who

have helped someone through a problem or a question. Please continue to help

john and Debra continue their work. If you need a part give john and chance

to provide it, at least ask if he can match the price. We need john to

continue the line, this well help the pricing and continue the legacy that

Dan Denny started building in his garage twenty five years ago. With 15

years on the list, I guess you could call it a habit, I guess I can break

the habit if I have to "I am a man and can change if I have to" (red-green)



John Oakley

Speedster 4 long and short wings

912 ul with cap

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

At 07:49 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Our moderators have forgotten what the list is about. We have one who does

not want any friendship on the list and one who is king, he knows more than

anyone and will argue for page after page to prove it.


	


Please be advised that this is not an open invitation to debate the 

merits of the moderators. If you wish to reply one way or another 

please do so off-list.



Thank you,

Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

_________________
Guy Buchanan
Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

John sez:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Our moderators have forgotten what the list is about. We have one who does

not want any friendship on the list and one who is king, he knows more than

anyone and will argue for page after page to prove it.


	


This would be really funny if you weren't being sincere.



I usually (but not always, I'll admit) spend some time carefully 

wording my comments to be clear but I've come to realize that it 

doesn't really matter at all.  Everyone on the list will interpret 

what you said differently and run off half-cocked starting 26 new 

conversations on all the different things I never said.



Oh well...



Mike G.

Kitfox List Moderator



P.S.  So, am I the king or the unfriendly one?

avidfox

Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 87

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

THE DREAM

  

 Albert, Sir,

    We have never met......... 

 It would be a honor if that day ever arrived.

  

 Thank you.

   Steve B

 On Jan 7, 2008 2:31 AM, A Smith <kitfox(at)ida.net (kitfox(at)ida.net)> wrote:

 [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "A Smith" <kitfox(at)ida.net  (kitfox(at)ida.net)>



Much to the dismay of our moderator, this has nothing to do with Kitfox. (I

like to do that sometimes)  Without this, there there is no group.



THE DREAM

The first memory of my childhood is that of my father and me in the park. 

Flying. It was a model that he had built. He would throw it and the children

of the neighborhood would run after it until it landed. That is until it was

stepped on in the hurry to get it first. The closest one got to pick it up 

and bring it back. An honor and time I am sure long forgotten by all. Except

one. I did not run after the plane. I stood in fascination. The beauty of it

flitting around on the air. Nobody could touch it until it came back from 

the safety of the winds to the confines and rigors of the earth. I knew at

that moment that I had to have that freedom, that safety.

Years of sitting at airports watching the planes come and go, the pilots

with there air of superiority about them. Afraid ot let them catch me 

looking at them for what they might do. Amazed at how they handled those

long wings on the ground. Maneuvering them between all the other planes that

were parked. Then the day came. My father was taking flying lessons in an 

Aerocoupe. He was going to go do some solo time and the plane needed fuel.

He told me to get in and steer it while he pushed it to the FBO. I do not

know why the truck didn"t just drive down to it. I have a pretty good idea 

though. I climbed into the cockpit and settled into the seat. To short to

see anything. I wasn't going to let that little inconvenience stop me

though. I could stretch and see just fine. He showed me how to steer it. And 

as he climbed down, withour turning around said, "watch the wings, and keep

it centered." We started to move. My dad, the power. Me at the controls. And

boy did I watch the wings. Like a hawk on the first leap from the nest. It 

was only a few hundred feet to the truck. And I am sure it was kept somewhat

centered. Which probably added another few hundreed feet. I did not say

anything then. But dad could have pushed me back and forth all day long. I 

never told anybody, They would not believe me anyway. That was my private

taste for the feeling of the freedom to flying. Like a child, it is not

reality at first. Until one day, like conception, there is no turning back. 

And there it sits. Steel, Aluminum, plastic. A stranger in your area. Yet

there is a bond that already  exists. You can feel it when you are near. I

seems to reach out to you. And as that of the birth of a child. It starts. 

You mold and shape. Touch and check every square inch. Just waiting for the

slightest hint of a problem. If there is, you attack it with ferocity.

Defending your own blood. There are the doubters and the non beleavers. You  [quote][b]

shinco(at)bright.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

john oakley wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 "Much to the dismay of our moderator, this has nothing to do with Kitfox. (I

 like to do that sometimes)  Without this, there is no group."



 Albert,

 Our moderators have forgotten what the list is about. We have one who does

 not want any friendship on the list and one who is king, he knows more than

 anyone and will argue for page after page to prove it. I have thought hard

 about quitting the list but like many us of feel we need the list for us and

 the new builders, the experience's and energy behind this size group is

 nothing to waste. 

 I have been on the list since 92, I have built 2 kitfox, I have flown 8

 different fox, dozens of other aircraft including war birds and heavy's. I

 hoped my experiences have helped someone. I know at least one person that

 was on the list what may have saved my life, pulling my cowl and pointing

 out the broken motor mount. Every year I try to complete some update to the

 bird, usually using information found on the list. I salute all of you who

 have helped someone through a problem or a question. Please continue to help

 john and Debra continue their work. If you need a part give john and chance

 to provide it, at least ask if he can match the price. We need john to

 continue the line, this well help the pricing and continue the legacy that

 Dan Denny started building in his garage twenty five years ago. With 15

 years on the list, I guess you could call it a habit, I guess I can break

 the habit if I have to "I am a man and can change if I have to" (red-green)



 John Oakley

 Speedster 4 long and short wings

 912 ul with cap

  



   

That is some good words 2 be proud of John..and U are right,,way 2 
	


go..Steve Shinabery N554KF   KF2  and the little 582 that could

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

John:

It's," I'm a man, I can change, if I have to... I guess...



Noel 

III-A getting four stroke power.



--

_________________
Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

john(at)leptron.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

Noel, thanks, I just can't seem to get it right.  I know who is using

duct tape now.... 



John Oakley

Loving my kitfox 4 speedster in saltlake



--

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Reality check, it is time

For those living south of the 49th... (most of the group) Red Green is the

lead character in a Canadian comedy show.  He runs a lodge, Possum Lodge,

where I assume, actually fishing would be a little too close to work for

comfort. The lodge motto, written in Latin roughly translates to, "Play

dead".  The end of every program shows the start of the lodge meeting where

the man's creed is repeated.  I'm a man, I can change, If I have to.... I

GUESS....



He drives an old Dodge van mostly held together with, you guessed it duct

tape which he lovingly refers to as the handy man's secret weapon.  Every

week he has a segment of his show where he constructs some gizmo or the

other with the "Secret Weapon" which of course never works.  These projects

are well beyond reinstalling rear view mirrors with duct tape....  There was

patio furniture, several winches which involve swiped car wheels from a

competing lodge.  



For those of us who like to fly he has a friend, Buzz, the original space

cadet, who flies a C180 wreck on floats.  Doors were lost in the great flood

and Red usually gets out of actually getting into the plane.



Every show has a pseudo editorial which ends with the phrase 



"Keep your stick on the ice, I'm pulling for you."



Noel

--

_________________
Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

GONER752(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: Reality check, it is time

Also Noel, "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find  you handy".Thanks to cable, I too know of ol' Red.

 Greg G  Macedon,  N.Y.

23NK

n375KL

Mod 2

582

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Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. 

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