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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Toggle switch tool Reply with quote

Bob,

Some time ago someone mentioned a tool for tightening the nut on toggle
switches without scratching the painted panel surface. I suppose if it's a
hex nut on the switch, a deep socket wrench (9/16?) would work. However
some switches come with a knurled nut. Is there a tool for this? Can't
seem to find one at any of the on-line vendors I've tried. Probably because
I don't know what it's called. Any help is appreciated.

Bevan
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Toggle switch tool Reply with quote

Bevan,

I solved this issue by just buying 9/16" hex nuts. B&C Electrical sells spare hex nuts, lock washers and anti-rotation washers for switches. I bought several as replacements to any knurled nuts I had. I also figured I would need some spare nuts and washers for those I will eventually drop on the floor and have roll into inaccessible places.

FYI, it was the switches I got from SteinAir that came with knurled nuts. All switches that I got from B&C came with hex nuts.

Good luck,


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Toggle switch tool Reply with quote

At 10:51 AM 1/11/2008 -0800, you wrote:

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Bob,

Some time ago someone mentioned a tool for tightening the nut on toggle
switches without scratching the painted panel surface. I suppose if it's a
hex nut on the switch, a deep socket wrench (9/16?) would work. However
some switches come with a knurled nut. Is there a tool for this? Can't
seem to find one at any of the on-line vendors I've tried. Probably because
I don't know what it's called. Any help is appreciated.

Dave has already offered the same advice I would offer.
The knurled nuts are sexy looking but a B(at)#$(at)h to deal
with mechanically. Years ago I had a "knurled nut driver"
that had exactly the right diameter and numbers of teeth
to firmly engage those nuts. It did a nice job of getting
the nut tight without damaging the panel. However, as
years went buy, more manufacturers came out with almost-a-
clone of the nuts that had been something of a de-facto
standard part in the US. My tool was found not to fit
every knurled nut in the wild. I think I pitched it.

With regard to tools for tightening switch nuts:

There are some nice 9/16, hollow shaft nut drivers
by Craftsman an others that are already very smooth
(polished) and have no or minimal internal relief or
radius on the inside corners so that they'll get
good engagement on thin nuts.

I've taken el-cheeso nut drivers and/or deep sockets
and sanded the open ends flat with ever finer
paper with the last pass being with polish compound
on a buffing wheel. This tool will not mark your
panel adjacent to the nut you're working. Nowadays,
I'd probably chuck the socket in the lathe and use
Dremmel tools to finish the open end.

All my new panels are Lexan fronts so are quite
resistant to scratching but it's a good point of
craftsmanship to have a 9/16" tool specifically
tailored to this task.

Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Toggle switch tool Reply with quote

All:

Along the same lines does anyone know where you can get a tool that works on
the slotted knurled nuts that go on headphone jacks. I have seen one
before, but I have been looking for one for the past few years without luck.

Thanks

Mark
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Toggle switch tool Reply with quote

From:                         "FLAGSTONE" <flagstone(at)cox.net>
To:                             <aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject:                     Re: Toggle switch tool
Date sent:                  Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:33:28 -0800
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> Along the same lines does anyone know where you can get a tool that works on
> the slotted knurled nuts that go on headphone jacks.  I have seen one
> before, but I have been looking for one for the past few years without luck.

Such as.....

http://tinyurl.com/35gujq

Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Toggle switch tool Reply with quote

I avoided the issue all together. My switches are mounted on a u channel
with thru holes drilled for anti rotation. The whole channel mounts
behind the panel with just the nose of the switch bushings partially
onto the back of the panel.

* only 4 screws exposed
* Can be dropped from behind the panel for service or panel removal
* Labeled with an engraved panel from Front Panel Express
"www.*frontpanel**express*.com/"
* Switches can be tightened to the channel without damage to the panel
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Ralph C. Hoover
RV7A
hooverra at verizon dot net


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Toggle switch tool Reply with quote

i use masking tape to protect the panel.

1 horizontal strip of tape above, 1 horizontal strip below and as many vertical strips as necessary between the switches / circuit breakers.



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