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On the SoCal VAF I saw this and wanted to bring it to this group as we have many critical players that I would hate to see happen to this group.
http://rvnewsletter.blogspot.com/2008/01/darned-shame.html
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Location: Appleton, WI USA
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:18 am Post subject: let's not let this happen to us |
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Thankfully we are much better than the average group about working through our family problems. The Internet is a big bad place if you listen to some people and it’s true that you need a thick skin sometimes. I make a point to take nothing personal and so I go along without losing sleep or making rash decisions. Occasionally I make less than well thought out comments and people call me on it, fair enough. Even the recent engine debates seemed rather civil to me even though some people equate that subject to a war.
One of the my chief complaints about how Doug run’s things is the same reason this group was born here on Matronics. Censorship. Looking at the thread that was referenced in Bob’s post you really can’t find anything that would make a grown man run off like that. But as you read on you realize that, once again, Doug has found fit to edit someone else’s post and leave no record of the action. This is the exact reason that a bunch of us defected from his very active RV-10 list when it was on Yahoo and moved here. At the time it killed all activity there. Most other sites that actually use the practice of moderation will leave a comment behind when editing another’s post. It’s polite and the right thing to do but Doug doesn’t. He just hacks posts to his liking and never says a word. I REALLY don’t like it when someone messes with what I say and IMHO this furthers activity that he seeks to block. I mean really, if you honestly want to stop that ban the user, like he threatens, and the place will become very cocktail party like in no time. But wait, that would cut into his registered user numbers that he uses to justify his crazy add prices. At least he doesn’t hide behind the false pretence of doing it for his kids college money anymore.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
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Subject: let's not let this happen to us
On the SoCal VAF I saw this and wanted to bring it to this group as we have many critical players that I would hate to see happen to this group.
http://rvnewsletter.blogspot.com/2008/01/darned-shame.html
Pascal
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: let's not let this happen to us |
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Pascal,
Don't underestimate the respectability of everyone here on all
sides of any discussion. There is very little here that
happens that drives people into anger. Yeah, everyone has some
disappointment when others don't seem to "get it",and that goes
for both sides of any argument, but at the same time, we make
room for those differences as we're all a part of the same
family in general....the RV-10 kit family. I think that's what
makes this list work so well is that we celebrate that single
big similarity more. Engines, primers, EFIS's, and all the other
things are just components in the big scheme of things, but it's
the fact that they'll be flying the same kit model that gives
a union of similarity. There are many hot button topics, but
none that really get me riled up too much. I have done things
the way that I did, using all the learned info to make my
own conclusions. Everyone else really should do the same.
Ingest, digest, and then produce your own outcome. The key
is soaking in all the info you can. If we avoid talking about
the hot button topics, we don't do anyone any favors. And
if both camps of any topic don't participate, then the
discussion goes nowhere, and people don't get the positives
and negatives or other thinking points. So it's all worth
while.
I'll leave you with this post I grabbed off the Lancair list
that I think was a repost from elsewhere. I found it really
humorous.
-Tim
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I think I've been spending too much time reading email lists, because I
found this to be hysterical...
HOW MANY EMAIL LIST MEMBERS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...
Another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid.
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp".
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct.
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take
this discussion to a light bulb forum.
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum.
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique and what brands are faulty.
5 People to post pics of their own light bulbs.
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's.
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all
headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversy.
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
light bulbs".
1 to bring politics into the discussion by adding that George W. isn't
the brightest bulb.
4 more to get into personal attacks over their political views.
1 moderator to lock the light bulb thread.
1 guy wondering when Can-Am is going to step up to the plate and make
lightbulbs as bright as the other manufactures.
3 guys wondering what the 2012 lightbulbs will be like.
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.
Pascal wrote:
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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: let's not let this happen to us |
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I was following this thread and as usual opinions abound on the right way/my way/your way on how to fill fiberglass. I didn't see the post that offended Darwin, I did see his post saying he was "outta here". This group has always policed itself, that's why were here instead of the old yahoo format. I participate on Doug's site as well and usually don't get very opinionated on any of them, just offer up my suggestions of what I may have or would have done in a situation. I don't consider myself an expert on anything, and there is always someone else who knows more. The good old Internet, emails and text messages carry a perceived emotional and often misinterpreted message that we can't properly relay unless we are having a actual talking conversation. Everyone here has always respected each other, the more we meet in person the better it gets, like after OSH every year. I recall John Cox getting beat up here a few times, If you have or ever have met and talked with him you get a better understanding of how he communicates just as you would Deems, myself or anyone else once you get to know them personally. Written communication often lacks the "personality" of it's writer, unless your a professional like Bob Collins, who I met once briefly, but feel like I know because of his articles and writing skills. Just my very humble opinion.
Rick S.
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dmaib@me.com
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: let's not let this happen to us |
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Hilarious! (see #13)
David Maib
40559
On Jan 9, 2008, at 8:14 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
Pascal,
Don't underestimate the respectability of everyone here on all
sides of any discussion. There is very little here that
happens that drives people into anger. Yeah, everyone has some
disappointment when others don't seem to "get it",and that goes
for both sides of any argument, but at the same time, we make
room for those differences as we're all a part of the same
family in general....the RV-10 kit family. I think that's what
makes this list work so well is that we celebrate that single
big similarity more. Engines, primers, EFIS's, and all the other
things are just components in the big scheme of things, but it's
the fact that they'll be flying the same kit model that gives
a union of similarity. There are many hot button topics, but
none that really get me riled up too much. I have done things
the way that I did, using all the learned info to make my
own conclusions. Everyone else really should do the same.
Ingest, digest, and then produce your own outcome. The key
is soaking in all the info you can. If we avoid talking about
the hot button topics, we don't do anyone any favors. And
if both camps of any topic don't participate, then the
discussion goes nowhere, and people don't get the positives
and negatives or other thinking points. So it's all worth
while.
I'll leave you with this post I grabbed off the Lancair list
that I think was a repost from elsewhere. I found it really
humorous.
-Tim
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think I've been spending too much time reading email lists, because
I found this to be hysterical...
HOW MANY EMAIL LIST MEMBERS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...
Another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid.
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
"lamp".
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct.
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please
take this discussion to a light bulb forum.
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum.
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique and what brands are faulty.
5 People to post pics of their own light bulbs.
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's.
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
light bulbs".
1 to bring politics into the discussion by adding that George W.
isn't the brightest bulb.
4 more to get into personal attacks over their political views.
1 moderator to lock the light bulb thread.
1 guy wondering when Can-Am is going to step up to the plate and make
lightbulbs as bright as the other manufactures.
3 guys wondering what the 2012 lightbulbs will be like.
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.
Pascal wrote:
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msausen
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: let's not let this happen to us |
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Man that was friggin hilarious! And I just want to point out that "light bulbs" will probably be extinct and replaced by "CFL's" by 2012 thanks to less than thought out legislation.
Now then, how many of the points did I hit below? ROFLMAO
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