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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

I'm using the Ellison, so was concerned about the same issue. I installed an additional paper element filter after both pumps but before the pressure guage port. This should allow me to detect any filter clogging resulting in a pressure drop. Picture included if it gets through.
Lynn   Corry, PA 601 XL / Corvair


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

Need to ask" Why two fuel pumps ? My QBK # 55 came with only one electric pump....

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

dingfelder wrote:
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I'm using the Ellison, so was concerned about the same issue. I
installed an additional paper element filter after both pumps but before
the pressure guage port. This should allow me to detect any filter
clogging resulting in a pressure drop. Picture included if it gets through.

Lynn Corry, PA 601 XL / Corvair

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I'm sorry, but at the risk of flames, why would anyone knowingly design
such a fault-intolerant, complex fuel system?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

On the advice of William Wynne and others, I removed my fuel filter. As others have pointed out, the gascolator acts as a fuel filter and a water separator. I've been flying the ellison EFS-3A for about 150 hours now.

Phil Maxson
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I'm using the Ellison, so was concerned about the same issue. I installed an additional paper element filter after both pumps but before the pressure guage port. This should allow me to detect any filter clogging resulting in a pressure drop. Picture included if it gets through.
        Lynn   Corry, PA   601 XL / Corvair
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

OK, where do you think the fault intolerance is in the system?
jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca wrote:
dingfelder wrote:
I'm sorry, but at the risk of flames, why would anyone knowingly design
such a fault-intolerant, complex fuel system?



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:46 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

Gig Giacona wrote:
OK, where do you think the fault intolerance is in the system?
jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca wrote:
dingfelder wrote:
I'm sorry, but at the risk of flames, why would anyone knowingly design
such a fault-intolerant, complex fuel system?



Maybe I am wrong, but from what I understand, the fuel pumps should be in a "parallel" configuration, as the failure of one pump could severely restrict or completely block flow of fuel through the line.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

Steve,

Not true. William Wynne recommends two fuel pumps in series. He has been flying his 601XL for several years in this configuration with no problems. For some types of fuel pumps, this may be true, but not the ones Wynne recommends (Facet Part No. FP-40108).

Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J "Lil Bruiser"



"steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

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Gig Giacona wrote:
> OK, where do you think the fault intolerance is in the system?
>
>
>
> jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca wrote:
> > dingfelder wrote:
> > I'm sorry, but at the risk of flames, why would anyone knowingly design
> > such a fault-intolerant, complex fuel system?
> >
> >
>
Maybe I am wrong, but from what I understand, the fuel pumps should be in a "parallel" configuration, as the failure of one pump could severely restrict or completely block flow of fuel through the line.

Steve


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:
Steve,

Not true. William Wynne recommends two fuel pumps in series. He has been flying his 601XL for several years in this configuration with no problems. For some types of fuel pumps, this may be true, but not the ones Wynne recommends (Facet Part No. FP-40108).

Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J "Lil Bruiser"

I stand corrected. I had never seen this type of arrangement before.

Steve

"steveadams" <dr_steve_adams> wrote:

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Gig Giacona wrote:
> OK, where do you think the fault intolerance is in the system?
>
>
>
> jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca wrote:
> > dingfelder wrote:
> > I'm sorry, but at the risk of flames, why would anyone knowingly design
> > such a fault-intolerant, complex fuel system?
> >
> >
>
Maybe I am wrong, but from what I understand, the fuel pumps should be in a "parallel" configuration, as the failure of one pump could severely restrict or completely block flow of fuel through the line.

Steve


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel Filter Reply with quote

The pumps used in the WW design flow freely when off. In fact, only one of those pumps is running at any given time.
steveadams wrote:
Gig Giacona wrote:
OK, where do you think the fault intolerance is in the system?
jd(at)lawsonimaging.ca wrote:
dingfelder wrote:
I'm sorry, but at the risk of flames, why would anyone knowingly design
such a fault-intolerant, complex fuel system?



Maybe I am wrong, but from what I understand, the fuel pumps should be in a "parallel" configuration, as the failure of one pump could severely restrict or completely block flow of fuel through the line.

Steve


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