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Europa XS with ULPower 260i engine

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Europa XS with ULPower 260i engine Reply with quote

I have received the following reply from the ULPower representatvie to my question, "Why do I not need to include crowbar OV protection with this engine?"

Our electronics guy sent me a diagram showing the principle of how our type of regulator works. He says (in Dutch below) that:

our type is a "shunt" regulator which shorts the PMG to ground when the battery voltage increases above the nominal level so that the battery can never be over charged and damaged.
The principle of a PMG is different to a Regulated Field Generator (typical in cars) where the magnetic field is regulated to vary the voltage of the generator.
A PMG acts as a constant current source and therefore may be shorted out.

The regulator / rectifier we use is typically used on large capacity motorbikes and our supplier says they are very robust.

He also sent the attached schematic:

So as I see it, the attached schematic for my airplane should be sufficient.

Vaughn Teegarden


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Europa XS with ULPower 260i engine Reply with quote

At 05:14 PM 1/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Quote:

I have received the following reply from the ULPower representatvie to my
question, "Why do I not need to include crowbar OV protection with this
engine?"
Our electronics guy sent me a diagram showing the principle of how our
type of regulator works. He says (in Dutch below) that:

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our type is a "shunt" regulator which shorts the PMG to ground when the
battery voltage increases above the nominal level so that the battery can
never be over charged and damaged.
The principle of a PMG is different to a Regulated Field Generator
(typical in cars) where the magnetic field is regulated to vary the
voltage of the generator.
A PMG acts as a constant current source and therefore may be shorted out.

----------
The regulator / rectifier we use is typically used on large capacity
motorbikes and our supplier says they are very robust.

He also sent the attached schematic:

So as I see it, the attached schematic for my airplane should be sufficient.

Vaughn Teegarden

What you've proposed will be fine. The regulator
topology you cited is a carry through of the
earliest PM alternator regulators. It throttles
or controls alternator output to the system by
putting a dead short on the alternator's stator
windings during short periods where unrestrained
output would boost the system voltage too much.

This is a very simple approach that has been
effective since day-one . . . but does have the
down-side of causing the alternator to run at
max output current 100% of the time whether that
energy is used by the electrical system or not.
Of course, if wire size and cooling considerations
for the alternator are carefully addressed, this
can produce a robust, reliable system.

Bob . . .
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( . . . a long habit of not thinking )
( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
( appearance of being right . . . )
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( -Thomas Paine 1776- )
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Europa XS with ULPower 260i engine Reply with quote

Thanks Bob,

I am going down to LSA show in Sebring, Florida to see the guys who make
the engine. I hope it works out well for me.

Vaughn Teegarden

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