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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: Fences

Makes me proud... 



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		  From a post on the Glastar list...


	


At my home airport (FYJ) the anti-terrorist fence ends about 50 feet each

side of the road leading in. We were issued codes to get through the $17,000

electric gate. Guests must go through the terminal building ($1.7m) to get

in. Terrorists evidently don't have the wits to walk around the end of the

fence so they are barred from evil deeds.



Before the fence, people interested in flying would often stop by and visit

or bring their kids to watch. No more.

wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: Fences

Yeah, My old airport had something similar.  Makes the uninformed feel more secure, while inconveniencing the many.  Kinda like waiting in line barefoot at the large airports.  The law of unintended consequences.



I had a non-pilot interloper comment that security like that (gates & fences) "should be mandated at all small airports" -- I had to help him correct his "frame of reference."



William

http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

-- Dr. Suess 



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BPA(at)bpaengines.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Fences

When I was a kid (LONG time ago)one of the major arterial streets in

Tulsa ended roughly 100 yds from the main runway at KTUL. One of the

great pleasures we had as youngsters was going to Brahms, getting an ice

cream and cruisin' to the airport with Dad on Saturday nights to watch

take offs and landings. Now we have locked gates, limited access, and

the big eye in the sky watching you if your within 1/4 mile of the

field. Damn shame



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coop85(at)cableone.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: Fences

It is truly a shame at the impact the goofy rules are making on a great way

of life.  At my last airport the 'strict' security policy included giving

all those with legal access a card that was nothing more than a business

card with your picture printed on it that my kids could have duplicated in

minutes.  



William, thanks for taking the time to educate the non-pilot on how things

could be and used to be.  I hope we can somehow encourage lookers and

wanna-be's back onto the airfield someday.  



Marcus



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carlosh(at)sec-engr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: Fences

/"I hope we can somehow encourage lookers and wanna-be's back onto the airfield someday."  



Marcus/

You bet I'm trying! On weekends I press my 3 year old sons face against 

the glass at the terminal when ever a plane goes by! He's starting to 

ask me to go to the airport with me to look at airplanes and hepikers! I 

so hope he is a third gen pilot!



Carlos in AZ



Marcus Cooper wrote:

[quote] 



 It is truly a shame at the impact the goofy rules are making on a great way

 of life.  At my last airport the 'strict' security policy included giving

 all those with legal access a card that was nothing more than a business

 card with your picture printed on it that my kids could have duplicated in

 minutes.  



 William, thanks for taking the time to educate the non-pilot on how things

 could be and used to be.  



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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Fences

You did not realize that Bin Laden's secret plan was to kill us with

bureaucracy. It's well known outside the US that the Feds overreact on

everything by hiring more bureaucrats and making more rules. Wasting

billions of dollars.



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dlm46007(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Fences

I used to walk on the ramp at the buildings just west of Pennant Aviation;

Access to the ramnp at the FSDO was not a problem. FBL. 



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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: Fences

And its flowed on to here in Aus however most of the fences that have been 

put up you can walk around or a 6YO could climb over.



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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: Fences

Rhonda you crack me up with the old age comments, anyone who knows her knows she is a looker !!!



I'll be willing to bet so many of us did the ice cream, airport thing. I would hang around the "Poor Indians" parachute club at the Burlington County Airport in South Jersey to see if they had a full load of 5 crazy skydivers, if only four were going, I could strap on a chute and go up hooked to the floor of a stripped out 182. How's that for no liability society! I'll never forget the climb to 10 or 12 thousand and watch them all pile out. Then the fun began with a screaming descent down into the pattern as to not waste any gas and get ready to take up a few more, hopefully only 4 would be ready. This was around 1973 or 1974 I was 12 years old. I would ride my bike to the airport, long two lane country road, across a big grass field, no fences. What a great and special time it was...I'll never forget those days. Hard to believe that 27 or so odd years later at 545 AM or so my time I would watch the World Trade Center getting hit by 757's driven by some of the worlds biggest scumbags. I'll never forget those minutes, hours and days either. It stinks to grow up.



Rick Sked

40185



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Rhonda(at)bpaengines.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Fences

That was actually Allen's response.  For your amusement, here is our

inter-office banter about his response. . . .



"Dad never said you were a glimmer in his eye. Mom told me once in an

argument that protected sex was a bunch of bull. If it worked, then how

come three of her kids were accidents! Now saying this, being as to howe

I em the much mor entelligint of the keds, hoo doo yoo thank shee wuz

reeferin too!



Yor mutch smartr bruther'



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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: Fences

"BPA" is usually Allen, but I'm sure he likes to be thought of as a looker also.  



 Back in the early 90's I spent several years flying skydivers in striped out and beat down 182's.  I don't think I'll ever forget that first trip to 11k when that door popped open.  White knuckle experience for sure.  Of course after a couple dozen of those I was side slipping the airplane with my head practically out the door to see where they were before making a screaming descent.  But I digress.



  The good news was that I routinely took people for rides when less than full (4-5 passengers and 1/4 tanks).  Now I wouldn't recommend using a skydiving operation for an introduction to aviation.  After the grueling 30 minutes to alt in a packed tight 182 with the aircraft clawing its way through the last 3k feet, I generally took it a little easier on them in decent.  Even though I was sensitive to the experience about to be given there was still more than one passenger that was a little greener than the people that jumped. 



Michael

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