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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

Those V-shaped deflectors are necessary to force  the airflow through the cylinder wall fins rather than letting more of the air  simply flow through the gap between the cylinders. They should be on the  incoming side of your airflow route. If the cooling air comes in from the top,  put them on top. If your cooling air comes in from the bottom, put them on the  bottom. If you do the opposite, the effect of forcing the air through the fins  will occur much later in the airstream with reduced effectiveness.

  

 Dred

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vettin74(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

Not sure who has been talking about the 3300 over heating, certianly not anyone who has installed the engine and baffling correctly. Have been building and installing jabs for several years and in dozens of different types for 100mph RANS S7s to 170mph Lightnings all with success. The older solid lifter engines had a lower Mx temp however with the proper installation are not an issue. The new engines are very nice to install and have a much higher CHT max making installation a little more fool proof.

   

  Nick 

  Arion aircraft LLC  



Gary Weaver <gweaver(at)nctv.com> wrote:

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GEE, after reading all the posts about the 3300 overheating I was wondering if I made a good decision buying the 3300. I was thinking       Be a better friend, newshound, and  [quote][b]

japhillipsga(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

Gary, you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine overheating. It probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose everything. I might be able to help you out with your problem and I was thinking about building an airboat and it might work on it. I'll help you and buy your 3300 from you if your really concerned. Can't really pay you much for an engine that's probably a dud. I'll offer you $2,000. U.S. cash dollars and I'll come pick it up. Just let me know, Best regards, Bill of Georgia 

 

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donmorrisey

Joined: 17 Mar 2007
Posts: 18

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

Gary, if you go to the yahoo jabiru engine email list and search for Fisher Dakota Hawk.  There are several builders of that airplane using a standard lyc/conti cowl pressurization baffle system.  One builder/pilot in Australia swears by it after having heating issues with an early 3300.

  

 However, you shouldn't have an issue if you install the engine and ram air ducts properly. 

  

 Don.



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matronics(at)rtist.nl
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

Glad to see I'm not the only one suspecting this to be a troll..





Rob

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matronics(at)rtist.nl
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

Whoops! Responded to the wrong message, sorry... I meant to say that Bill 

sees what I'm seeing as well. This Gary guy is deliberately telling us he 

will do things entirely against everything we have learned in the past years 

about using a Jabiru engine, and deliberately mentioning options that are 

soooo wrong it's not even funny. Gary must be trolling. If not, I'm bidding 

$2100...



Rob



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

I'll bid $2150, permit him to deliver it, and for his trouble, I'll  

give him a tour of all the depressed areas of Michigan, including all  

the shut-down industrial centers of the State. : )



Lynn

On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Rob Turk wrote:



[quote] 

 <matronics(at)rtist.nl>



 Whoops! Responded to the wrong message, sorry... I meant to say  

 that Bill sees what I'm seeing as well. This Gary guy is  

 deliberately telling us he will do things entirely against  

 everything we have learned in the past years about using a Jabiru  

 engine, and deliberately mentioning options that are soooo wrong  

 it's not even funny. Gary must be trolling. If not, I'm bidding  

 $2100...



 Rob



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N1BZRich(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

In a message dated 1/16/2008 1:08:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  japhillipsga(at)aol.com writes:

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		  Gary,    you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine overheating. It    probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose everything. I might be able to    help you out with your problem and I was thinking about building an airboat    and it might work on it. I'll help you and buy your 3300 from you if your    really concerned. Can't really pay you much for an engine that's probably a    dud. I'll offer you $2,000. 	


 

     What a bunch of crock.  If the Jabiru 3300 is  installed correctly using the supplied parts as specified, then you should  be able to get the CHTs into the correct range.  You can do some  adjusting on individual CHTs by placing small deflectors over individual  cylinders and by slightly changing the baffle height in front of #1 and #3 which  will change the amount of air that goes through the fiber-glass air ducts.   Remember, you want high pressure on top of the cylinders and low pressure under  them.  You can also help the situation by installing a small air dam to  help air exit at the aft end of the lower cowling.  This of course lowers  air pressure under the cylinders and increases the air flow through the  cylinders.  

     I have flown seven different Jabiru powered  aircraft (six with the 3300 and one with the 2200) and with these adjustments as  mentioned above, all have been well within the CHT ranges.  The slowest was  a Rans S7 and with the 3300 it was a real Super Cub beater.  Fun  airplane.  Next slowest was a Zodiac 601XL which my EAA chapter built with  me being the lead technical advisor and once again the air duct adjustments with  small deflectors over the cylinders needing more cooling air did the  trick.  All the other Jabiru powered airplanes that I have flown have been  the speedier homebuilts like the Esqual and Lightning.  Again, no problems  if you install the engine and air ducts as specified.  If you continue to  have  problems, call the folks at Jabiru USA in Tennessee.  In my  mind, they are the experts.  In fact, if you have not been to their Jabiur  engine school, you have short changed yourself in your quest for  knowledge.

 Blue Skies,

 Buz Rich

     Highly modified Esqual with lots of Lightning stuff  and a 3300 Jab that has 416 hours on it in the last 2 years.  No problems  on it and I run it hard.  



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tjs22t(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

When you comedians do this nonsense could you at least add DO NOT ARCHIVE 

like civilized folk???  Auditions for Last Comic Standing will be in April.

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: Just Highlander 3300

Oops, I forgot. My "do not archive" is usually in the sig that I use,  

but I didn't use it this time. I get used to not using it on Yahoo,  

and missed the fact that this was on Matronics.



But to be perfectly honest, Thomas, this list is so seldom used that  

a few that get by w/o DNA certainly won't clog up the system too badly.

However, you are absolutely right, and I for one, apologize.



Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/460+ hrs

do not archive

On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:00 PM, THOMAS SMALL wrote:



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 <tjs22t(at)verizon.net>



 When you comedians do this nonsense could you at least add DO NOT  

 ARCHIVE like civilized folk???  Auditions for Last Comic Standing  

 will be in April.

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Gary Weaver

Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 7
Location: Othello, WA

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Just Highlander 3300

Well, thanks for all your advice. I've never flown a plane with a Jabiru. I have only flown super cubs and 180's. 

What a swell bunch of guys!!

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