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 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: Inspection Check-List - it ain't for the builder |
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Would a copy of the FAA form 8000-38 that Zenith filled out to establish
that the kit meets the 51% rule be something that would be good to show the
DAR or FAA when getting our planes inspected for an airworthiness
certificate?
Tim, you said comments appreciated.
I dislike dealing with speculation or statements without factual background
("I remember reading once..."), but if we could get the truth on this matter
about inspection lists I doubt 8000-38 is really for the builder. It seems
that "I read once..." that it was for the kit manufacturer OR the builder
with an exp-ab that was using lots of parts from another a/c or two.
No facts in my statement, but asking ten different FSDO or MIDO offices will
get you ten interpretations. The FAA guys are here but they're not
necessarily here to help us with actual readings of the regs. Has anyone
called Joe Norris at the EAA on this?
You could have the form ready if you think it would grease the inspection
process. With the way the inspector types and DARs differ, anything can
help, but be ready for them to just brush it aside and catch you somewhere
else.
cheers jeff HDS/3300 do not archive as the stuff below can be interpreted
in many ways
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e. Checklist. The FAA Form 8000-38,Fabrication/Assembly Operation Checklist,
is used by the
FAA as an aid in determining if a manufacturer's aircraft meets the major
portion requirements of
section 2 1.19 1 (g).
AC 20-139 413196
+++ Notice it says Plans-built a/c in next section AC 20-139 413196
b. Completed Kit-Built Aircraft. When a kit has been evaluated and published
in the listing of 4
eligible amateur-builta ircraft kits, and no commercial assistance was used
in the construction of the x
aircraft using the evaluated kit, the AS1 or DAR will not be required to
make another major portion rule
determination for the completed aircraft.
c. Plans-Built Aircraft.
(1) During final inspectionf or compliancew ith section2 1.191( g), a
plans-built aircraft must be
evaluatedu sing the FAA Form 8000-38a s a guide. If the builder intendst o
utilize commercial
assistancet,h e FAA Form 8000-38c an be submittedt o the FAA prior to
construction,l isting the taskso r
processesfo r which the commerciala ssistanceis proposed.I t shoulda lso
show the intendedf abrication
and assemblyt askst he builder will perform. On the basiso f this
pre-constructionc hecklist, a builder of
a plans-built aircraft should be able to obtain an evaluation in writing
from the AS1 or DAR of the effect
that the proposedc ommercial assistancew ill haveo n the major portion
requirementf or the completed
aircraft.
+++ And this sure seems like it's directed at someone evaluating a
manufactuer's kit - perhaps for the 51% rule.
413196 AC 20-139
Appendix 1
APPENDIX 1. PREPARATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR
FAA FORM 8000-38, FABRICATION/ASSEMBLY
OPERATION CHECKLIST
1. PURPOSE. This appendix provides instructions for completing FAA Form
8000-38.
A sample form is included as figure 1.
2. GUIDANCE. This form may be used by any person to establish the
eligibility of an aircraft
to be certificated experimental, for the purpose of operating as an
amateur-built. Prepare the
form as follows:
a. Enter the company name and address, aircraft model, (by name and/or
number), document
name and date (manufacturer's parts list, assembly manual, etc., with latest
revision) and type of
aircraft (land, sea, fixed-wing, rotorcraft, etc.).
b. Mark the specific tasks required to fabricate and assemble the aircraft.
Mark, an "x"
under the column heading "Accomplished By" in the appropriate space when the
task is
performed by the AMATEUR. If the task is performed by the kit manufacturer
or by a person
providing commercial assistance,a mark will be placed in the KIT
MANUFACTURER column.
Additional blank lines are provided to list any tasks not on the checklist.
If a task is listed and
not applicable to the construction of the aircraft enter N/A in the
appropriate space.
c. Use the comments area to enter any additional comments, information or
statements, as
necessary.
d. Print or type name of person performing the evaluation of the kit or
aircraft.
e. The person performing the evaluation of the kit or aircraft should sign
their name in the
signature block.
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