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JimmieBlackwell(at)austin
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:55 am Post subject: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers

Since I was the one that started the discussion on  fuel strainers I wanted to report the outcome on mine.  I removed and  reinstalled mine yesterday without any difficulty.  After 13 years and 440  hours on the 912UL engine the strainers were completely clear.  I guess  that says a lot for using, "Mr. Funnel", to filter fuel.

  

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dave

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers

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		  I guess that says a lot for using, "Mr. Funnel", to filter fuel. 	




I filter most gas in my planes. Only exception is at marinas when  they busy or windy  and cannot get it done as quick.  I have a gascolator very rarely see anything but gas in it.

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Lynn Matteson

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers

I'll second the use of Mr. Funnel, Jimmie...when I fuel up at home  

hangar. When on the road, and getting my 100LL from the airports, I  

pump straight in. No issues yet. Neither of my "just-below-the-tanks"  

Purolator filters have had to be changed yet, nor do they show any  

indication of any accumulated crap in 460 hrs.

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/460+ hrs

On Jan 12, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Jimmie Blackwell wrote:



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		   Since I was the one that started the discussion on fuel strainers I  

 wanted to report the outcome on mine.  I removed and reinstalled  

 mine yesterday without any difficulty.  After 13 years and 440  

 hours on the 912UL engine the strainers were completely clear.  I  

 guess that says a lot for using, "Mr. Funnel", to filter fuel.



 Jimmie

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers

Lynn: I had a look at the Mr.Funnel at the local Crappy Tire store.  Canada's answer to a have it all hardware, come auto parts, come marina, come garden center, come...   You get the idea.  

   

They were very expensive but the ones in stock must have been a low end model because they only had a cone shaped screen in the centre instead of the normal flat screen.  There was nothing different about that funnel.  The label did mention a different model that is supposed to remove water from fuel (as long as there is no ethanol in it)but so far I haven't been able to actually get to see one of those funnels.  

   

When I was a kid I used to use an old felt hat to filter the gas for my outboard motor.  I think they call that felt a chamois now days.  The good thing about using the hat is I always had it handy and when the gas was fresh it would keep the flies, and me, away for a couple of hours. J  All the planes I serviced had a big funnel and a big felt in the storage compartment.  None of them ever had water in the fuel.    

   

Speaking of water in the fuel I had an acquaintance once who gassed up his Lake, LA-4 at Stephenville (CYJT).  He back fired and missed all the way down the 12000’ runway, got airborne and at around 150’agl had the engine, after much sputtering, quit.  His gear was already up when he tried to turn back and, well, we all know what happens in that situation.  High attitude, low speed, no power and a steep turn are the main points of the recipe.   

   

Hindsight is always 20 20.  Things he should have done.  1. After fuelling the plane he should have taken 20 minutes for a coffee to let the fuel and any water in it settle.  2. He should have dripped all his sumps 3. He should have cut the power at the first backfire an found out what caused it  4. He should have landed straight ahead in the salt water...  LA-4s are pretty good at landing in water.  I intentionally left out using a filter because the airport nozzles had Purolator filters installed. Of course pressure from the fuel pumps could/did push water through the filters.  

   

I must be getting tired... I think I’m rambling  

   

   

Noel Loveys  

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Kitfox III-A, 582,B box  

Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats  

   

   

   

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Lynn Matteson

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers

Noel-

Go to    www.mrfunnel.com/Models.html   for a look at the different  

models. There is even a demo, but I couldn't get it to play. My eMac  

computer is powered by a Jabiru, so it is extremely slow, I guess. : )



  Anyway, the models are shown there, and I'm pretty sure I have the  

F3, which flows 3.9 gpm.  think they all have the cone...actually it  

is a cylinder...sticking straight up in the centr of the funnel. I  

see this as allowing more screen surface than a flat screen. The  

largest one flows 15 gpm, and has two screen cylinders sticking up in  

the middle of the funnel. The plastic is supposed to be conductive,  

which helps prevent static electricity from ruining your day. I  

recall getting the F3 because it contains a nice number, (ha, ha) and  

because of its size, which I could store in my baggage compartment if  

I so chose.

Lynn Matteson

Grass Lake, Michigan

Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200

flying w/460+ hrs

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On Jan 12, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:



[quote] Lynn: I had a look at the Mr.Funnel at the local Crappy Tire  

 store.  Canada's answer to a have it all hardware, come auto parts,  

 come marina, come garden center, come...   You get the idea.



 They were very expensive but the ones in stock must have been a low  

 end model because they only had a cone shaped screen in the centre  

 instead of the normal flat screen.  There was nothing different  

 about that funnel.  The label did mention a different model that is  

 supposed to remove water from fuel (as long as there is no ethanol  

 in it)but so far I haven't been able to actually get to see one of  

 those funnels.



 When I was a kid I used to use an old felt hat to filter the gas  

 for my outboard motor.  I think they call that felt a chamois now  

 days.  The good thing about using the hat is I always had it handy  

 and when the gas was fresh it would keep the flies, and me, away  

 for a couple of hours. J  All the planes I serviced had a big  

 funnel and a big felt in the storage compartment.  None of them  

 ever had water in the fuel.



 Speaking of water in the fuel I had an acquaintance once who gassed  

 up his Lake, LA-4 at Stephenville (CYJT).  He back fired and missed  

 all the way down the 12000’ runway, got airborne and at around  

 150’agl had the engine, after much sputtering, quit.  His gear was  

 already up when he tried to turn back and, well, we all know what  

 happens in that situation.  High attitude, low speed, no power and  

 a steep turn are the main points of the recipe.



 Hindsight is always 20 20.  Things he should have done.  1. After  

 fuelling the plane he should have taken 20 minutes for a coffee to  

 let the fuel and any water in it settle.  2. He should have dripped  

 all his sumps 3. He should have cut the power at the first backfire  

 an found out what caused it  4. He should have landed straight  

 ahead in the salt water...  LA-4s are pretty good at landing in  

 water.  I intentionally left out using a filter because the airport  

 nozzles had Purolator filters installed. Of course pressure from  

 the fuel pumps could/did push water through the filters.



 I must be getting tired... I think I’m rambling



 Noel Loveys



 AME Intern, RPP



 Kitfox III-A, 582,B box



 Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats



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dave

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers

Mr funnel is available very easy just click on link and you all set



http://www.cfisher.com/mrfunnel.html

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JimmieBlackwell(at)austin
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers

Never did see this one on the list, so am sending  it again.  Thanks again to all for your assistance.

  

 Jimmie

  

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