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occom

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 404

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

Hi Leonard, I saved this message that you sent last Fall, and I am now going 

to order a crank. When you got this crank was it the same as the old one? 

The aero cranks have the shaved journals on the connecting rods. Also was it 

a new crank or rebuilt and how is it working for you? The reason I'm asking 

is that it seems too good to be true.



Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582

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akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: good source for 582 cranks

When I talked to Tony at TMR, he said that he had bought something like 70 cranks from rotax and got a real good buy on them.  They were sitting on his shelf and he wanted to move them out.  The crank I got was a brand new mod 99.  It only has break in time and the twice a month start up and run up to temp time on it as I have not finished my left wing yet.

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dwight purdy

Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 85

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

Sounds good

  By the way is John Perry related as he lives in the same town and is on 

this list?





At 02:34 PM 1/22/2008 -0800, you wrote:



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When I talked to Tony at TMR, he said that he had bought something like 70 

cranks from rotax and got a real good buy on them.  They were sitting on 

his shelf and he wanted to move them out.  The crank I got was a brand new 

mod 99.  It only has break in time and the twice a month start up and run 

up to temp time on it as I have not finished my left wing yet.



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Leonard Perry

Soldotna AK

Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV

582 IVO IFA

Full Lotus 1260

95% complete





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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: good source for 582 cranks

If you want to gamble on cranks  here is one bid is 10$ 

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250208788035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1123



I just sold a crank for a 582 to a Polaris dealer that had gone through 3 cranks in the last few years.  I ran into him at a flyin and he had never had a 582 crank last more than 70 hours. He was shocked to learn that mine always go past 300 hours as well as the one I flew in on.



 I asked him the usual , what kind of oil etc  etc.  then he told me he been getting rebuilt cranks from somewhere.   



You get what you pay for is the moral of the story. save 500 $ on a crank and wipe out a landing gear or your entire plane you just spent 1200 hours building ...  PRICELESS> ?



Same goes for pistons ,  some will argue snowmobile pistons are better or the same.  not so.

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avidfox

Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 87

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

Leni,

  take a deep breath........, exhale.

 count to 10, slowly.

  there, that better now?    

   

   Steve

 



 

 On Jan 22, 2008 7:36 PM, dave <dave(at)cfisher.com (dave(at)cfisher.com)> wrote:

 [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "dave" <dave(at)cfisher.com  (dave(at)cfisher.com)>



If you want to gamble on cranks  here is one bid is 10$

[url=http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item 50208788035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1123]http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item 50208788035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1123 [/url]



I just sold a crank for a 582 to a Polaris dealer that had gone through 3 cranks in the last few years.  I ran into him at a flyin and he had never had a 582 crank last more than 70 hours. He was shocked to learn that mine always go past 300 hours as well as the one I flew in on. 



 I asked him the usual , what kind of oil etc  etc.  then he told me he been getting rebuilt cranks from somewhere.



You get what you pay for is the moral of the story. save 500 $ on a crank and wipe out a landing gear or your entire plane you just spent 1200 hours building ...  PRICELESS> ? 



Same goes for pistons ,  some will argue snowmobile pistons are better or the same.  not so.



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akflyer

Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 574
Location: Soldotna AK

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: good source for 582 cranks

 	  dave wrote: 	
		  If you want to gamble on cranks  here is one bid is 10$ 

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250208788035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1123



I just sold a crank for a 582 to a Polaris dealer that had gone through 3 cranks in the last few years.  I ran into him at a flyin and he had never had a 582 crank last more than 70 hours. He was shocked to learn that mine always go past 300 hours as well as the one I flew in on.



 I asked him the usual , what kind of oil etc  etc.  then he told me he been getting rebuilt cranks from somewhere.   



You get what you pay for is the moral of the story. save 500 $ on a crank and wipe out a landing gear or your entire plane you just spent 1200 hours building ...  PRICELESS> ?



Same goes for pistons ,  some will argue snowmobile pistons are better or the same.  not so. 	




Nice... what you are saying is, if a guy gets  a good deal it must be fake huh... nice.  glad you are a dealer and will push your agenda to the end.  I notice just about every one of your posts ends with you trying to sell someone something.



now for the best part of the entire irony.  You tell everyone how you should go by the manufactures recommendation on damn near everything, then post with pride how you have never bothered to pull you engine apart and are way over the recommended overhaul interval etc.  thats cool, 



Being able to rebuild you engine at dealer price.... under a grand

taking out the gear cause you were too hard headed to follow manufacture specs... PRICELESS.



Kinda puts things in perspective now doesn't it.

And that was WAYYY after I counted to 10, forwards and backwards several times

dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: good source for 582 cranks

Leanard , I state from facts not from ficton. 



 	  Quote: 	
		  Nice... what you are saying is, if a guy gets a good deal it must be fake huh... nice. glad you are a dealer and will push your agenda to the end. I notice just about every one of your posts ends with you trying to sell someone something 	




No, I could not careless if you buy a crank or not but folks do buy rebuilds and have had limited success in our applications. Sure some might work but alot don't.   Hard fact to understand I guess. ?

Point is I give real time real life experiences like the previous example, I have seen enough rebuilt cranks fail that if you gave them to me for free I would not use them.



some say penny wise  pound foolish .. live and learn as others have done unfortunately.

occom

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 404

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

Relax guys. Leonard, I'm going to call TMR and talk to them about their 

cranks. I may buy one or I may not. I'm an experienced mechanic but I am 

unfamiliar with this engine and should I choose to get it zero timed by a 

Rotax repair shop, it is unlikely he will be willing to use a crank from 

somewhere else. Something to consider.



I can also buy a new long block engine, mod 99 with no accessories for a 

little more than a zero time rebuild, another choice to consider.



I never intended for this to become an issue here the email I sent was 

intended to go directly to Leonard and I copied the list in error.



Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582

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avidfox

Joined: 03 Apr 2007
Posts: 87

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

It was posted....



 	  Quote: 	
		   "If you want to gamble on cranks  here is one bid is 10$"

 [url=http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item 50208788035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1123]http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item 50208788035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1123 [/url]

  
	


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 A quote from the sellers E-Bay page, who has a 99.3% positive feedback rating.....

 http://stores.ebay.ca/ULTRALIGHT-AIRCRAFT-ROTAX-SALES

  

 "I am a certified ROTAX service center, and A&P, I buy and sell ROTAX parts new and used. I specialize in good used ROTAX 2 cycle engines of all kinds for ULTRALIGHT and EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT. I also buy and sell ULTRALIGHT and EXPERIMENT AIRCRAFT and sell parts. I am also a dealer for KRUCKER float" 

  

 Certified ROTAX Service Center? A&P?  What more would one want? 

 I'd say the "odds" are in the buyers favor. 

  

 Steve Benesh

 A&P, IA

 "5" 912UL

  

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patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

There is no opening bid yet and the reserve is much, much, much higher. 

 [quote]  Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:16:57 -0500

From: avidfox(at)gmail.com

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: good source for 582 cranks

 It was posted....

 	  Quote: 	
		   "If you want to gamble on cranks  here is one bid is 10$"

 http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250208788035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:CA:1123 

  _________________________________________________________________

 A quote from the sellers E-Bay page, who has a 99.3% positive feedback rating.....

 http://stores.ebay.ca/ULTRALIGHT-AIRCRAFT-ROTAX-SALES

 "I am a certified ROTAX service center, and A&P, I buy and sell ROTAX parts new and used. I specialize in good used ROTAX 2 cycle engines of all kinds for ULTRALIGHT and EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT. I also buy and sell ULTRALIGHT and EXPERIMENT AIRCRAFT and sell parts. I am also a dealer for KRUCKER float" 

 Certified ROTAX Service Center? A&P?  What more would one want? 

 I'd say the "odds" are in the buyers favor. 

 Steve Benesh

 A&P, IA

 "5" 912UL

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patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

Dave, You are not the Dave Goddard that greew up in Somonauk, IL by any chance, are you?

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL



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		   From: occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Re: good source for 582 cranks

 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:17:37 -0400

 

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca>

 

 Relax guys. Leonard, I'm going to call TMR and talk to them about their 

 cranks. I may buy one or I may not. I'm an experienced mechanic but I am 

 unfamiliar with this engine and should I choose to get it zero timed by a 

 Rotax repair shop, it is unlikely he will be willing to use a crank from 

 somewhere else. Something to consider.

 

 I can also buy a new long block engine, mod 99 with no accessories for a 

 little more than a zero time rebuild, another choice to consider.

 

 I never intended for this to become an issue here the email I sent was 

 intended to go directly to Leonard and I copied the list in error.

 

 Dave Goddard- Mod IV 10=======

 

 

 


	


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occom

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 404

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: good source for 582 cranks

Nope, But I'm sure he's a great guy. I am a Canadian  living in Nova Scotia. I have several American relatives but none sharing  the same name.  

  

  

 Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582

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