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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: "News to me!" Reply with quote
As much as I love their airplanes, their prices, and generally the company altogether, they do have a tendency to say "never heard of that". I cracked my canopy on my -6A because there is one hole that many, many people have drilled on the side skirt that will crack the canopy. I just didn't think my conditions would crack because of shop temperature, amount of pressure on the curve, etc. Well, it did crack and I wasn't going to have a 3" crack on a brand new airplane. Told van's to make that hole not shown to be drilled on the plans per mine and many other recommendations including George Orndorff, and they acted like I was the first. Same thing with my RV-4 rudder just a couple of weeks ago. The plans do not adjust for the thicker skins and the distance for the stiffeners to the trailing edge is wrong on the plans when you use a .020 skin. They again acted like it was never a problem, but anyone who follows the plans on that drawing with the .020 skin will have the same problem.

So, the best we can do is educate Van's the best we can, as we are his real "beta testers". I just wish they would admit flaws sometimes and fix them. Sure would have saved us alot of $$ I'm sure!

Paul Besing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: "News to me!" Reply with quote
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 20:59 -0800, Paul Besing wrote:
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cracked my canopy on my -6A because there is one hole that many, many
people have drilled on the side skirt that will crack the canopy. I
just didn't think my conditions would crack because of shop
temperature, amount of pressure on the curve, etc. Well, it did crack
and I wasn't going to have a 3" crack on a brand new airplane. Told
van's to make that hole not shown to be drilled on the plans

Which particular hole is that? Slider or Tipup?
Timely info for me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: "News to me!" Reply with quote
My experience has been that it depends on who I get on the phone. Especially one particular person.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: "News to me!" Reply with quote
Tipup canopy, the forward most hole on the side skirt. It's right where there is a compound curve where the canopy curves from the top and around the front. The second time around I allowed that skirt to pucker just a hair. When the fiberglass fairing was completed, I was able to adjust for that pucker of the top of the side skirt.

Paul Besing

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: "News to me!" Reply with quote
I assume the hole you're referencing here is the farthest forward one on the plans?

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:00 PM
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As much as I love their airplanes, their prices, and generally the company altogether, they do have a tendency to say "never heard of that". I cracked my canopy on my -6A because there is one hole that many, many people have drilled on the side skirt that will crack the canopy. I just didn't think my conditions would crack because of shop temperature, amount of pressure on the curve, etc. Well, it did crack and I wasn't going to have a 3" crack on a brand new airplane. Told van's to make that hole not shown to be drilled on the plans per mine and many other recommendations including George Orndorff, and they acted like I was the first. Same thing with my RV-4 rudder just a couple of weeks ago. The plans do not adjust for the thicker skins and the distance for the stiffeners to the trailing edge is wrong on the plans when you use a .020 skin. They again acted like it was never a problem, but anyone who follows the plans on that drawing with the .020 skin will have the same problem.

So, the best we can do is educate Van's the best we can, as we are his real "beta testers". I just wish they would admit flaws sometimes and fix them. Sure would have saved us alot of $$ I'm sure!

Paul Besing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: "News to me!" Reply with quote
That's correct.

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