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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Hello All,

I'm looking for a heat box for an RV-4 with air mixing capability (cool air, heated, or mixed) that allows for dumping of unused heated air. Looking at the ads online, I see heat boxes that will dump unused hot air, and heat boxes that can mix warm with cool air, but I can't tell if any of these will do both. Any tips would be appreciated.

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Hal Benjamin - RV-4
Long Island, NY
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Hal,
Have you checked out the mixer from Van's?

http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1199460045-284-291&browse=heatvent&product=chv-1

It has an air bleed hole. Doesn't really dump all the unused hot air but works very well. I have one on my 6A with the hot air from two heat muffs in tandem. Have been flying for three years with this set up and no problems.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

I've got this one and will be installing this in my RV-4 hopefully this weekend.  I'll post my flight test findings...what I like about it, is that I'll be able to plumb the air right to the air vents, and get the right temperature instead of having a heat blow on your feet.

Paul Besing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Paul C Dale C Chuck C
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Thanks for the help! I had seen Van 7s mixer C but never noticed the hole E E E ELooks like that setup should work E 6nbsp;
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Installation was pretty easy. I had a scat tube running from the baffles to the firewall, into a box that splits to two scat tubes going to the air vents, just below the panel on either side of the fuselage. I simply plugged that box into the firewall box, connected a cable and the heater tube. Haven't used it yet, so I'm not sure how it's gonna work, but should be flying in a few days.

My biggest concern is there is no place to vent the heat overboard. It's going to pre heat the mixer tube I imagine, which might effect the temperature of cool air going in.. We'll see.

Paul Besing

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Paul, Dale, Chuck,

Thanks for the help! I had seen Van's mixer, but never noticed the hole....Looks like that setup should work.

Hal Benjamin

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Hi Paul,

I'm working figuring out where to install all this stuff on the firewall, do you have any pictures of your installation?

Hal

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Not yet...but it's dead center behind the engine, about 4-6 inches from the top of the firewall. That goes into a box on the cabin side of the firewall with two outlets going to the air vents.

I will try to get some pics soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Thanks Paul E 6nbsp;
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Update....installed and flew the "Y" selector box from Van's. Works as advertised. I just use one part of it, only using one cable. The heat works with my robbins muff, but isn't as warm as I would like. I don't fault the selector box for that, just the airflow/springs/etc etc that have been in the archives. Just need the right volume of air/temperature combination.

Recommend the "Y" box.works perfectly. I can't see a need for the second valve they include with it. I left mine out. Also, I have it plumbed directly into my air vents on either side, just below the panel.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Hi Paul C
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Thanks for the update E 6nbsp; I 7m going to try it as well E Do you get a good 6nbsp;volume of air flow?
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Hal

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Heat boxes for RV-4 Reply with quote

Yes, definitely good volume. The heat may have a little too much, but it works for sure. The fresh air is a little pre heated though. I suspect its because the hot air doesn't have anywhere to vent off of the Y tube and it's preheating the tube and leaking some hot air into it.

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