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tdawson-townsend(at)auror
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: Slick Start

There used to be two models of SlickStart, one for Slick magnetos and one for Bendix magnetos.  Part of the model change last fall was that Slick dropped the second model, so for the future, you can only buy SlickStart for use with Slick magnetos.    

   

Are all Slick mags impulse coupled (not retard)?  Perhaps the missing P2 connection is no longer needed if only supporting Slick impulse-coupled mags.  

   

I have Bendix retard mags, and so I either needed the discountinued SlickStart model or an old-school mechanical “vibrator”.  Luckily, I managed to find what I think was the last SS1002 SlickStart module in Germany and snagged it.  

   

TDT  

   

Tim Dawson-Townsend  

40025  

tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)   

617-500-4812 (office)  

617-905-4800 (mobile)  

   

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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Slick Start

Hey Tim,

  

 I ordered my IO-540 D4A5 (Exp) Lyco from Vans and it  was supplied with a retard breaker on the left mag - same as a few others.   My guess is that unless otherwise specified, the retard breaker is 'standard' on  Slick Mags on Vans supplied engines.

  

 Does anyone know of literature that discusses the  pros & cons of retard vs impulse mags?

  

 A side note - I posted a question a few weeks back  about the need for a switch to select which mag to source the GRT EIS Tacho  input.  The Slick Start instruction manual says to not have the electronic  tachometer on the same magneto as the slick start.  To prevent the EIS  being accidently sourced by the left mag during start, I decided to source the  tacho from the right mag only and use the mark-one eardrum technique to confirm  correct rev drop during mag checks on run-up.

  

  

 cheers,

 Ron  

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 [quote]         From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of    Dawson-Townsend,Timothy

Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 12:43    AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Slick    Start

   

      

There used to be two models of SlickStart, one for Slick    magnetos and one for Bendix magnetos.  Part of the model change last fall    was that Slick dropped the second model, so for the future, you can only buy    SlickStart for use with Slick magnetos.     

    

Are all Slick mags impulse coupled (not retard)?     Perhaps the missing P2 connection is no longer needed if only supporting Slick    impulse-coupled mags.   

    

I have Bendix retard mags, and so I either needed the    discountinued SlickStart model or an old-school mechanical “vibrator”.     Luckily, I managed to find what I think was the last SS1002 SlickStart module    in Germany and snagged it.   

    

TDT   

    

Tim Dawson-Townsend   

40025   

tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)       

617-500-4812 (office)   

617-905-4800 (mobile)   

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: Slick Start

Slick makes both retard breaker and impulse coupled mags, as well as

straight mags with no starting mechanism(for #2 mag).

I still don't figure why they stopped making the Bendix version, as

manufacturing cost has to be low, there are thousands of Bendix retard

breaker mags in use (aka famous Shower of Sparks system), and most

A&Ps won't switch to Slicks unless customer demands it, or are forced

into them with a reman engine.



On Feb 5, 2008 7:13 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy

<tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero> wrote:

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 There used to be two models of SlickStart, one for Slick magnetos and one

 for Bendix magnetos.  Part of the model change last fall was that Slick

 dropped the second model, so for the future, you can only buy SlickStart for

 use with Slick magnetos.



 Are all Slick mags impulse coupled (not retard)?  Perhaps the missing P2

 connection is no longer needed if only supporting Slick impulse-coupled

 mags.



 I have Bendix retard mags, and so I either needed the discountinued

 SlickStart model or an old-school mechanical "vibrator".  Luckily, I managed

 to find what I think was the last SS1002 SlickStart module in Germany and

 snagged it.



 TDT



 Tim Dawson-Townsend



 40025



 tdt(at)aurora.aero



 617-500-4812 (office)



 617-905-4800 (mobile)

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apilot2(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: Slick Start

Retard breaker mags are very reliable with a proper starting vibrator,

and many Lyc engines were equipped that way as installed by Piper and

Mooney. You would have to research how the Comanche 260 was equipped,

as that is what the Vans spec engine was built for.



On Feb 5, 2008 2:31 PM, McGANN, Ron <ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.com> wrote:

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 Hey Tim,



 I ordered my IO-540 D4A5 (Exp) Lyco from Vans and it was supplied with a

 retard breaker on the left mag - same as a few others.  My guess is that

 unless otherwise specified, the retard breaker is 'standard' on Slick Mags

 on Vans supplied engines.



 Does anyone know of literature that discusses the pros & cons of retard vs

 impulse mags?



 A side note - I posted a question a few weeks back about the need for a

 switch to select which mag to source the GRT EIS Tacho input.  The Slick

 Start instruction manual says to not have the electronic tachometer on the

 same magneto as the slick start.  To prevent the EIS being accidently

 sourced by the left mag during start, I decided to source the tacho from the

 right mag only and use the mark-one eardrum technique to confirm correct rev

 drop during mag checks on run-up.

 cheers,

 Ron

 -187



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 Dawson-Townsend,Timothy

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 Subject: Slick Start



 There used to be two models of SlickStart, one for Slick magnetos and one

 for Bendix magnetos.  Part of the model change last fall was that Slick

 dropped the second model, so for the future, you can only buy SlickStart for

 use with Slick magnetos.



 Are all Slick mags impulse coupled (not retard)?  Perhaps the missing P2

 connection is no longer needed if only supporting Slick impulse-coupled

 mags.



 I have Bendix retard mags, and so I either needed the discountinued

 SlickStart model or an old-school mechanical "vibrator".  Luckily, I managed

 to find what I think was the last SS1002 SlickStart module in Germany and

 snagged it.



 TDT



 Tim Dawson-Townsend



 40025



 tdt(at)aurora.aero



 617-500-4812 (office)



 617-905-4800 (mobile)



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