 |
Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
zenith-list(at)steensland
Guest
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: 601 Crimp details |
 |
|
Eureka!
I now have a seat at the table. Got my plans for the 601xl on
valentines day of all things.
After reading through the plans a few times I see a few things that my
detailed orientated brain needs to know.
Can anyone detail the crimps on the tail and wing nose ribs? I have seen
a few people use routers to cut them but leave out the little detail of
type of bit used, etc. They appear to be 12mm across and about that deep.
Also, with all the brake plans that I have seen, everyone seems so
focused on all the 1/8" radius bends the on the 601. Has anyone
considered the 1/4" radius bends that are required? There are far fewer
1/4" radius bends, but they are there. What modifications to a brake
are required to change the radius. I'm sure a solution will present itself.
| | - The Matronics Zenith-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Ron Lendon
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
leinad
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 283
Location: Central Virginia
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: 601 Crimp details |
|
|
To make crimps on my form blocks I used a rotary rasp in a drill motor. The one I used was about 3/4" at the wide end then tapers to almost a point. It makes very nice tapered crimps. I think I purchased it at Sears.
Most of the 1/4 inch radius are on thicker material that I bend over a wooden form in my vice with a mallet. I use a good hard wood, like maple to make these forms. I first cut the edge away so that it is sharper than a 90, more like 70 degrees to take care of spring back, and round the edge with a rasp and sand paper until I've got the radius I want.
Check out the tools link on my web sight.
http:\\daniel.dempseyfamily.us
I also use a wooden bending brake, but that's another story.
Dan 601xl Dempsey
| zenith-list(at)steensland wrote: | Eureka!
I now have a seat at the table. Got my plans for the 601xl on
valentines day of all things.
After reading through the plans a few times I see a few things that my
detailed orientated brain needs to know.
Can anyone detail the crimps on the tail and wing nose ribs? I have seen
a few people use routers to cut them but leave out the little detail of
type of bit used, etc. They appear to be 12mm across and about that deep.
Also, with all the brake plans that I have seen, everyone seems so
focused on all the 1/8" radius bends the on the 601. Has anyone
considered the 1/4" radius bends that are required? There are far fewer
1/4" radius bends, but they are there. What modifications to a brake
are required to change the radius. I'm sure a solution will present itself. |
| | - The Matronics Zenith-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List |
|
_________________
Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Kevin Bonds
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 171
Location: Nashville, Tn
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: 601 Crimp details |
|
|
Lee
Folks like us (people who come up with these wild ideas like building our own airplane) tend to want to obsess over the details. We want to have everything figured out immediately. But remember, this thing is going to be built one part at a time. Just get busy working on a part. You' ll find a solution to the unknowns in due time. There is nothing on this plane you wont be able to accomplish if you just get busy on it. I didn't bother putting the crimp reliefs in my blocks. Tried it, Didn't need them. Some like them but, you'll have to finish the bend a little by hand, no matter what, so I didn't bother. Your results may vary. I put a page on my site for new builders here
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds/new_builders.htm
Not that I'm an expert or anything. But, I thought it might serve as a reminder to not obsess. I am notorious about obsessing and taking too long to do something. I have been making a conscious effort, lately, to change this detail about myself.
Kevin Bonds
Nashville Tn
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds/
Lee Steensland wrote: [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: Lee Steensland <zenith-list(at)steensland.net> (zenith-list(at)steensland.net)
Eureka!
I now have a seat at the table. Got my plans for the 601xl on valentines day of all things.
[b]
| | - The Matronics Zenith-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List |
|
_________________
KevinBonds
Nashville, TN
Plans-building Zenith CH601XL w/Corvair Power
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
Guest
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: 601 Crimp details |
|
|
Hello Lee;
The 1/4" radius was managed many moons ago in the big name manufacturer's experimental department by bending shims on the 1/8" radius until you had a stack thick enough to generate the more ample radius bends. Make the shims longer than the part top be bent and tape the stack to the brake nose to the side of the actual part edges.
Lee Steensland <zenith-list(at)steensland.net> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: Lee Steensland
Eureka!
I now have a seat at the table. Got my plans for the 601xl on
valentines day of all things.
After reading through the plans a few times I see a few things that my
detailed orientated brain needs to know.
Can anyone detail the crimps on the tail and wing nose ribs? I have seen
a few people use routers to cut them Be a better friend, newshound, and [quote][b]
| | - The Matronics Zenith-List Email Forum - | | | Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
|
Get Email Distribution Too!
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
