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VG's : Vortex Generators Testing, Results, and Reports

 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: VG's : Vortex Generators Testing, Results, and Reports Reply with quote

It is nothing short of incredible to me that any rational, intelligent individual would ignore 50 + years of scientific testing and huge number of pilot reports on the benefits of VG's on their Kolbs, based on one test that one of the pilots very clearly stated did not go well.

The only thing this tells me is that some individuals have stated their beliefs publicly on the list, and are now so unwilling to admit that they have been wrong, that they ignore mountains of evidence and and cling to one test that was flown very poorly. See report here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=32973&highlight=vgs

To give bad and incorrect advice here on the list just because a couple of you have so thoroughly dug yourselves into a position and now need to save face is a disservice to everyone that reads this list. Here on the Kolb list we have way to many guys that are so interested in saving face, or backing up their friends in their little " clique ", that they forget about or ignore the truth.

Information we publish here on the list not about WHO is right, it is about WHAT is right. Many people read this list to make their airplanes safer and more enjoyable, we owe it to them to post good and accurate information.

Mike


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: VG's : Vortex Generators Testing, Results, and Reports Reply with quote

Allright, enough! I can`t bite my tongue anymore! If it is so awfull the way
we conduct ourselves, are`nt you ashamed to be a part of this list? If I
felt the way you did, I would unsubscribe this list & join another! This is
getting "OLD" even for us lurkers. Thank God & Bill Gates for the delete
button!! I appreciate both opinions & facts, & I believe rational people
have enough sense to filter out works for them & what doesn`t.. Thanks to
those who have provided input to my questions & then left it alone. Maybe
I`ll rejoin This forum at some later date, but for now, addios! Jim
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: VG's : Vortex Generators Testing, Results, and Reports Reply with quote

JetPilot wrote:
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It is nothing short of incredible to me that any rational, intelligent individual would ignore 50 + years of scientific testing and huge number of pilot reports on the benefits of VG's on their Kolbs, based on one test that one of the pilots very clearly stated did not go well.

The only thing this tells me is that some individuals have stated their beliefs publicly on the list, and are now so unwilling to admit that they have been wrong, that they ignore mountains of evidence and and cling to one test that was flown very poorly. See report here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=32973&highlight=vgs

To give bad and incorrect advice here on the list just because a couple of you have so thoroughly dug yourselves into a position and now need to save face is a disservice to everyone that reads this list. Here on the Kolb list we have way to many guys that are so interested in saving face, or backing up their friends in their little " clique ", that they forget about or ignore the truth.

Information we publish here on the list not about WHO is right, it is about WHAT is right. Many people read this list to make their airplanes safer and more enjoyable, we owe it to them to post good and accurate information.

Mike

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Mike,

I don't know how this Kolb List was ever able to function before you
came along. I do know that it was a much more pleasant place to visit
before. Seems like every year or so, a new self-righteous individual
comes along and plays havoc with the list. I only wish I was as certain
of my perfect insight into what is right and wrong as you seem to be.
With your constant ravings we are slowly losing the quality of this
group and the individuals that made it a good thing. Must be a
generational thing for it seems that "some newcomers" are infected with
the missionary zeal of being the only one's who can see the truth! Who
are you going to insult and rave at when there is no one else left?
When you have proven yourself with many years of experience with a Kolb,
come back and tell us all about it in a civil and respectful manner!!
How many hours did you say you have?!!!!!!!!

How many other groups have you infected over the years?!!!!

Terry - FireFly #95


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