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 Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: Painting Experience |
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I ll say now that I m having a "happy ending" but...............
Here is how my past week went with the AcryGlo Aircraft paint.
AcryGlo is the best paint I ve ever used. It should be because three gallons set me back $966.00.
I like polished aluminum airplanes. My friends have polished aircraft and man their beautiful.
But, I m lazy and didnt want to do the steps required to make my 601 shine..
So. I opted to paint... It all started out as a disaster.
I cleaned the aluminum with "aluma prep.
Applied Alodine to get that golden brown/etched base.
I applied epoxy two part metal primer then waited two weeks for the cure.
Starting with the rudder, I laid it down on my table in the spray booth
I scuffed the primmer to have excellent "bite" for the base coats. Vaccuumed all the dust and used tack cloths..
I "fogged on three coats and everything looked super.
After the perfect paint job dried, I flipped the rudder over..
Proceeded to do the same steps as on the first side.
Holy Smolly. Pin holes up the Kazoo!.
I bet I had one thousand small holes in the paint...
Thinking I d let it dry and then sand,,, but I m lazy and used reducer to wipe off the mess...
I changed paint guns. I was using a HVLP gun from Harbor Freight but went back to my ol trusty "standard" spray gun...
This time I reduced the paint with reducer by 25%.
Well to make this short....Its working out very nice. Not totally professional but close...
Its much more work than I thought it would be to paint.... I might, should have polished and then gone flyin...
I guess thats how we learn, aint it ??
SW
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Larry Hursh
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Location: Edwardsburg, MI (near Elkhart, IN)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: Painting Experience |
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Hey Steve,
My brother in law owns an RV painting shop. They paint the really expensive units ($500,000 and up). He was asking me if I want to paint my XL or polish it out. I told him I really liked the polished look as you do, but I didn't want to have to keep buffing and buffing to keep it up. He told me he would help me buff it out and then he would put on several layers of "clear coat" for me. He said that it locks up the aluminum and will never need polishing again. I LIKE that idea! I'm still not sure if I want to paint color or not. Maybe a mixture of both. When the time comes, my brother in law is going to sketch out some really great looking paint schemes for me. He does really great work. He painted Randy Travis's motorhome for him (I think it was him). It looked great - He does a lot of airbrush work too. He's willing to do all of it for me "just for fun".......he must like me or something.
Larry
steve <notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net> wrote:
[quote] I ll say now that I m having a "happy ending" but...............
Here is how my past week went with the AcryGlo Aircraft paint.
AcryGlo is the best paint I ve ever used. It should be because three gallons set me back $966.00.
I like polished aluminum airplanes. My friends have polished aircraft and man their beautiful.
But, I m lazy and didnt want to do the steps required to make my 601 shine..
So. I opted to paint... It all started out as a disaster.
I cleaned the aluminum with "aluma prep.
Applied Alodine to get that golden brown/etched base.
I applied epoxy two part metal primer then waited two weeks for the cure.
Starting with the rudder, I laid it down on my table in the spray booth
I scuffed the primmer to have excellent "bite" for the base coats. Vaccuumed all the dust and used tack cloths..
I "fogged on three coats and everything looked super.
After the perfect paint job dried, I flipped the rudder over..
Proceeded to do the same steps as on the first side.
Holy Smolly. Pin holes up the Kazoo!.
I bet I had one thousand small holes in the paint...
Thinking I d let it dry and then sand,,, but I m lazy and used reducer to wipe off the mess...
I changed paint guns. I was using a HVLP gun from Harbor Freight but went back to my ol trusty "standard" spray gun...
This time I reduced the paint with reducer by 25%.
Well to make this short....Its working out very nice. Not totally professional but close...
Its much more work than I thought it would be to paint.... I might, should have polished and then gone flyin...
I guess thats how we learn, aint it [quote][b]
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hansriet
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Painting Experience |
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Does your wife have an unmarried sister by any chance?
Hanss
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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: Painting Experience |
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Kitplanes did an article on polishing in November last year (“Dare To Be Bare”). This is what it had to say on coatings:
“When the Nuvite factory was asked about protective coatings, the recommendation was, "Use nothing." There are two reasons for this. Consider that you just worked like crazy to get a slick surface. If you were going to paint it, you’d be roughing it up to get the paint to stick, so it hardly makes sense to expect a coating to bond to a surface that was intentionally made smooth. That means that when part of the top coat comes loose, as it eventually will, it’s going to look different than the adjacent area. In turn, that means that you have to remove the remainder of the top coat, which will entail damaging the aluminum. Go to jail. Do not pass Go.
The second reason is closely related to the first. You’ve seen those super-brilliant Airstream trailers. The older ones had nothing applied, but with time and customer demand, the factory shifted to coating. The Airstream cognoscenti claim they can spot a newer trailer, because the coating eventually gets cloudy and it just doesn’t shine the way the older ones do.”
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry H
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:10 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Painting Experience
Hey Steve,
My brother in law owns an RV painting shop. They paint the really expensive units ($500,000 and up). He was asking me if I want to paint my XL or polish it out. I told him I really liked the polished look as you do, but I didn't want to have to keep buffing and buffing to keep it up. He told me he would help me buff it out and then he would put on several layers of "clear coat" for me. He said that it locks up the aluminum and will never need polishing again. I LIKE that idea! I'm still not sure if I want to paint color or not. Maybe a mixture of both. When the time comes, my brother in law is going to sketch out some really great looking paint schemes for me. He does really great work. He painted Randy Travis's motorhome for him (I think it was him). It looked great - He does a lot of airbrush work too. He's willing to do all of it for me "just for fun".......he must like me or something.
Larry
steve <notsew_evets(at)frontiernet.net> wrote:
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I ll say now that I m having a "happy ending" but...............
Here is how my past week went with the AcryGlo Aircraft paint.
AcryGlo is the best paint I ve ever used. It should be because three gallons set me back $966.00.
I like polished aluminum airplanes. My friends have polished aircraft and man their beautiful.
But, I m lazy and didnt want to do the steps required to make my 601 shine..
So. I opted to paint... It all started out as a disaster.
I cleaned the aluminum with "aluma prep.
Applied Alodine to get that golden brown/etched base.
I applied epoxy two part metal primer then waited two weeks for the cure.
Starting with the rudder, I laid it down on my table in the spray booth
I scuffed the primmer to have excellent "bite" for the base coats. Vaccuumed all the dust and used tack cloths..
I "fogged on three coats and everything looked super.
After the perfect paint job dried, I flipped the rudder over..
Proceeded to do the same steps as on the first side.
Holy Smolly. Pin holes up the Kazoo!.
I bet I had one thousand small holes in the paint...
Thinking I d let it dry and then sand,,, but I m lazy and used reducer to wipe off the mess...
I changed paint guns. I was using a HVLP gun from Harbor Freight but went back to my ol trusty "standard" spray gun...
This time I reduced the paint with reducer by 25%.
Well to make this short....Its working out very nice. Not totally professional but close...
Its much more work than I thought it would be to paint.... I might, should have polished and then gone flyin...
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Larry Hursh
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Painting Experience |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: Painting Experience |
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Actually yes. But the sister is A looney toon.
Extreamly NUTS!
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