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rv10builder(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Hey all,



I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 so 

that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings.  

Suggestions?  I've got a harbor freight nearby...



Thanks,



Brian

40308

Main gear fairings then inspection!

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance...

http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10



I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had

4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all

out of the wheel fairings this weekend.  Basically, all of the

fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing

how much came out.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

rv10builder wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Hey all,

 

 I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 so 

 that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings.  

 Suggestions?  I've got a harbor freight nearby...

 

 Thanks,

 

 Brian

 40308

 Main gear fairings then inspection!

rv10builder(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Very nice Tim!  So I can assume you were using the tie down ring 

locations under the wing as the jack point?  I was concerned that it may 

not be strong enough, but it sounds like like a non-issue.

Thanks!

Brian

Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance...

 http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10

 I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had

 4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all

 out of the wheel fairings this weekend.  Basically, all of the

 fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing

 how much came out.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 rv10builder wrote:

> 

>

> Hey all,

>

> I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 

> so that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings.  

> Suggestions?  I've got a harbor freight nearby...

>

> Thanks,

>

> Brian

> 40308

> Main gear fairings then inspection!

>

 .

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

We built a set like Tim's and they work great.  Make sure you have a  

head that goes on the top of the jack that will allow it to swivel a  

little bit so you don't put undue side loads on the tie down bases.     

I talked to Van's and they said this is the preferred way to jack it  

up.  Also, the same jack is a great way to hold up the tail without  

the engine installed.  As Tim said, you will use these in the future  

for maintenance.

Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694

On Mar 2, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance...

 http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10

 I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had

 4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all

 out of the wheel fairings this weekend.  Basically, all of the

 fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing

 how much came out.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 rv10builder wrote:

> 

> >

> Hey all,

> I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed  

> -10 so that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings.   

> Suggestions?  I've got a harbor freight nearby...

> Thanks,

> Brian

> 40308

> Main gear fairings then inspection!

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Yep, as Jesse said, it's the preferred location.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

rv10builder wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Very nice Tim!  So I can assume you were using the tie down ring 

 locations under the wing as the jack point?  I was concerned that it may 

 not be strong enough, but it sounds like like a non-issue.

 

 Thanks!

 

 Brian

 

 Tim Olson wrote:

> 

> May as well do it right and prepare for years of future maintenance...

> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/generaltips.html#Jacking_the_RV-10

>

> I just used mine this weekend, because the last flight I did had

> 4" of snow on field that wasn't plowed....and I had to dig it all

> out of the wheel fairings this weekend.  Basically, all of the

> fairing that wasn't occupied by tire, was occupied by snow. Amazing

> how much came out.

>

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

> do not archive

> rv10builder wrote:

>> 

>>

>> Hey all,

>>

>> I'm trying to figure out the best way to jack up my 99% completed -10 

>> so that I can complete the fitting of the main gear fairings.  

>> Suggestions?  I've got a harbor freight nearby...

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Brian

>> 40308

>> Main gear fairings then inspection!

>>

>

>

> .

>

Jim Berry

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 237
Location: Denver

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Jacking up the -10

To all,



Has anyone developed a good method to jack and support the completed fuselage before the wings are attached. I want to raise the fuselage off the wheels and fit the wheel pants before mounting the wings.



Jim Berry

40482

N15JB(reserved)

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

With or without the engine?  If without, then using a jack/stand on  

the engine mount and one on the tail tie down base and then something  

to stable it works.  With the engine, then you could possible use an  

engine hoist to hold up the front and a jack/stand on the tail, also  

with something to stabilize it.



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:20 PM, jim berry wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 To all,



 Has anyone developed a good method to jack and support the completed  

 fuselage before the wings are attached. I want to raise the fuselage  

 off the wheels and fit the wheel pants before mounting the wings.



 Jim Berry

 40482

 N15JB(reserved)





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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167445#167445

CJohnston(at)popsound.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

I went down to harbor freight, and they were having a sale on lift

tables.  I bought one, modified it a bit, and it worked like a charm.

See here:



http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Landing_Gear.

html



it was just the ticket for doing the wheelpants and gear leg fairings.

I used a heavy duty saw horse under the tail, and adjusted the height so

that the aircraft was level.



cj

www.perfectlygoodairplane.net

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Jim Berry

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 237
Location: Denver

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Jacking up the -10

Jesse,



The engine and prop are on. I thought about using my engine hoist to lift the fuselage, but am reluctant to hang all the weight from the engine mount or the engine lifting ring.



cj,



The link to your landing gear does not work, and I could not find the table you mentioned searching manually.



Jim Berry

40482

N16JB(reserved)

taildragon(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Jim,

  Here is how I do it...

  

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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Thats a great but TINY picture...can you descibe what the jack is pushing on and how it's attached to the gear. 

Rick Sked 

40185

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taildragon(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Her is how I do it...

  

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capsteve

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: NIAGARA FALLS NY

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

when you install the  wheel pants you might want to jack the fuse itself and leave the gear legs in an  "in-flight position" or relaxed position to ensure alignment with the airflow. i  had one already installed when i started to think about it. when i jacked the  plane and refit the wheel pant there was a difference. it wasn't major,  but probably enough to affect trim flight.... 

 steve  dinieri



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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:55 PM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->      Her is how I do it...

    

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taildragon(at)msn.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hi Rick,

  

 Yes, I welded a bolt at about a 45 degree angle to a cut piece of  galvanized pipe, and covered it with epoxy and micro-balloons. Wrapped the  inside of the pipe with a strip of inter-tube to prevent scratching and to add  friction. The bolt fits in a hole drilled in the top of the scissor jack (from  Kragens). Using an electric drill with a "tee"  makes for easy  jacking.

  

 Roger

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CJohnston(at)popsound.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Oops.  The link wrapped to the next page.  Try this  

   

www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Landing_Gear.html  

   

if it wrapped to the next line again, just make sure the .html is on there  

or go to the finishing section, and select "landing gear"  

   

cj  

   

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taildragon(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Rick, here is another pic of the "gear grabber. After cutting the pipe,  open it up to allow it to slide over the gear near the wheel but tighten against  the gear leg as it is raised toward the fuselage.

  

  

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taildragon(at)msn.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hi Steve,

  

 You are right. When we did the wheel pants, we let the gear  "sag", but it didn't sag much. We braced from the spar carry-thru and fitted the  wheel pants.

  

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Actually, I think that's the Per-plans way...you're supposed to

let the gear hang and align the fairings while they're in the

in-flight hanging position.

Tim

Steven DiNieri wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   when you install the wheel pants you might want to jack the fuse itself 

 and leave the gear legs in an "in-flight position" or relaxed position 

 to ensure alignment with the airflow. i had one already installed when i 

 started to think about it. when i jacked the plane and refit the wheel 

 pant there was a difference. it wasn't major, but probably enough to 

 affect trim flight.... 

 steve dinieri

flywrights(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Two or three pallets with the top one covered with a carpet scrap.  Then use various shims to ensure level across the fuselage.  That ws my method and it seemed fine, especially after dropping many plumb lines and square lines on the floor to cross-check in-plane. 

  

Rob Wright 

#392 

looking at a LOT of sanding when I do the body prep for the door-canopy prep.  Just didn't seem to cure flush even after many many clamps held it correctly. 

But I DID hang then engine today! 



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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: Jacking up the -10

Very cool, I was looking for a way to jack mine easily from the gear, I have mine on Harbor Freight dollys and I can see using them once flying to get the most from our hangar space (Bob Kauffman and I) we have 3500 SF and rent out what we don't need. The dollys allow us to move the aircraft easily into the corners...we inconvience ourselves but not our tenants...looks like an aerolift may be on the way. Hangar space at North Las Vegas is sparce...we are lucky to own the facility we have. Once the fly off is done and the fairings are on for good I'll have to jack from the wing tie down to put it on the dollys...small price to pay for "free" hangar space. 

Rick Sked 

40185 



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