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William Clapp
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Howdy folks. For that last couple years I have been working closely with some people to achieve their goals of flight. Flying around the US and getting to know many of you has led me to expand a bit more of the parts and services that I am providing. I am currently working on renewing my CFI for Light Sport to help with instruction and helping pilots grow in their skills. I also have also included Prepurchase inspection and Ferry capabilities to the services I provide. These services will be added to my website (billclapp.com) shortly.
Since much of my time still has to be at home (single dad) I have also increased my capabilities in servicing corvair engines and helping builders with their installations. My Corvair services page will show how I can help. New additions to the page are custom rebuilt distributors, custom exhaust systems and parts, and my prop hub design that is available. Call or email me for availability and use. Much of my time is spent in helping individual builders with their individual needs who have their aiplanes here at my shop so I am limited with the quantity of service I can provide. However, you think that I can help you pleas feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to see whether I can help or direct you to a cource that can fill your needs.
Thank you...Bill Clapp
Bill Clapp - KR2S builder and pilot
Valdosta GA
www.billclapp.com
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available..... |
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Hi
Does the Corvair engine have a mech. fuel pump or electric
Thanks Don
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available..... |
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The engine in a car has a mechanical pump. In William Wynne’s standard conversion the mechanical pump is discarded and two specific identical Facet electric pumps are plumbed in series. Only one pump is powered at a time. The pump model is chosen such that fuel will flow when the pump is not powered.
An all-electric fuel system sounds scary but the (dual) points/coil ignition system used also requires power. But the auto conversions with an ECU (Subaru I believe) is in the same boat. I believe that William has run tests that show that if your alternator dies the battery can run the pumps and ignition for an hour or so.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ella
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:38 AM
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Subject: Re: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Hi
Does the Corvair engine have a mech. fuel pump or electric
Thanks Don
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From: william Clapp (iflykrs(at)yahoo.com)
To: krnet(at)mylist.net (krnet(at)mylist.net) ; corvaircraft(at)mylist.net (corvaircraft(at)mylist.net) ; Zenith (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Howdy folks. For that last couple years I have been working closely with some people to achieve their goals of flight. Flying around the US and getting to know many of you has led me to expand a bit more of the parts and services that I am providing. I am currently working on renewing my CFI for Light Sport to help with instruction and helping pilots grow in their skills. I also have also included Prepurchase inspection and Ferry capabilities to the services I provide. These services will be added to my website (billclapp.com) shortly.
Since much of my time still has to be at home (single dad) I have also increased my capabilities in servicing corvair engines and helping builders with their installations. My Corvair services page will show how I can help. New additions to the page are custom rebuilt distributors, custom exhaust systems and parts, and my prop hub design that is available. Call or email me for availability and use. Much of my time is spent in helping individual builders with their individual needs who have their aiplanes here at my shop so I am limited with the quantity of service I can provide. However, you think that I can help you pleas feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to see whether I can help or direct you to a cource that can fill your needs.
Thank you...Bill Clapp
Bill Clapp - KR2S builder and pilot
Valdosta GA
www.billclapp.com
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William Clapp
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available..... |
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Craig - you are partially correct. We did have an airplane have an emergency landing due to low battery voltage and the pumps shut down and engine quit. That is why I like the gravity feed system. If you have the sual pumps then insure that you have a constant 12v to run the system. Call me for more info. 229-506 7741 Bill
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An all-electric fuel system sounds scary but the (dual) points/coil ignition system used also requires power. But the auto conversions with an ECU (Subaru I believe) is in the same boat. I believe that William has run tests that show that if your alternator dies the battery can run the pumps and ignition for an hour or so.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ella
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Subject: Re: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Hi
Does the Corvair engine have a mech. fuel pump or electric
Thanks Don
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William Clapp
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available..... |
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The original engine has a mechanical fuel pump. Some people opt to use this but some have switched to electric pumps or like me to gravity feed (gravity dont quit) All these systems can work if thought through properly. Bill
ella <rhodes1(at)copper.net> wrote: [quote] Hi
Does the Corvair engine have a mech. fuel pump or electric
Thanks Don
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available..... |
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Actually I’m recalling a test on a test stand on the ground where the alternator was deliberately disconnected and the engine allowed to run till it died. I’ll see if I can find the entry on William’s web site.
-- Craig
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:36 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Craig - you are partially correct. We did have an airplane have an emergency landing due to low battery voltage and the pumps shut down and engine quit. That is why I like the gravity feed system. If you have the sual pumps then insure that you have a constant 12v to run the system. Call me for more info. 229-506 7741 Bill
Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com> wrote:
The engine in a car has a mechanical pump. In William Wynne’s standard conversion the mechanical pump is discarded and two specific identical Facet electric pumps are plumbed in series. Only one pump is powered at a time. The pump model is chosen such that fuel will flow when the pump is not powered.
An all-electric fuel system sounds scary but the (dual) points/coil ignition system used also requires power. But the auto conversions with an ECU (Subaru I believe) is in the same boat. I believe that William has run tests that show that if your alternator dies the battery can run the pumps and ignition for an hour or so.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ella
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:38 AM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Hi
Does the Corvair engine have a mech. fuel pump or electric
Thanks Don
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From: william Clapp (iflykrs(at)yahoo.com)
To: krnet(at)mylist.net (krnet(at)mylist.net) ; corvaircraft(at)mylist.net (corvaircraft(at)mylist.net) ; Zenith (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Howdy folks. For that last couple years I have been working closely with some people to achieve their goals of flight. Flying around the US and getting to know many of you has led me to expand a bit more of the parts and services that I am providing. I am currently working on renewing my CFI for Light Sport to help with instruction and helping pilots grow in their skills. I also have also included Prepurchase inspection and Ferry capabilities to the services I provide. These services will be added to my website (billclapp.com) shortly.
Since much of my time still has to be at home (single dad) I have also increased my capabilities in servicing corvair engines and helping builders with their installations. My Corvair services page will show how I can help. New additions to the page are custom rebuilt distributors, custom exhaust systems and parts, and my prop hub design that is available. Call or email me for availability and use. Much of my time is spent in helping individual builders with their individual needs who have their aiplanes here at my shop so I am limited with the quantity of service I can provide. However, you think that I can help you pleas feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to see whether I can help or direct you to a cource that can fill your needs.
Thank you...Bill Clapp
Bill Clapp - KR2S builder and pilot
Valdosta GA
www.billclapp.com
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available..... |
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http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar0406.html
“In the above photo you can see the volt meter on the Dynomometer with Dr. Ray's engine running at full power. Notice that it only reads 9.5 volts. This is because we generally run engines without charging systems on the dyno. After dozens of starts and hours of running, the voltage drops in the small battery. Because our Dual Ignition System is based on points, it is not troubled by voltage this low. Measurement of the torque output of the engine shows no effect.”
http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar1007.html
“One of the most important aspects of the ignition system is that it's low voltage tolerant and a low power consumer. There's a lot of theoretically great electronic systems that work fantastically as long as there's more than 11.5 volts available and a steady flow of 10 amps to power it. In the world of flying, where you could have an alternator or voltage regulator failure, and be reduced to the amount of electrical power stored in your battery, these electronic systems are not acceptable. A Corvair engine running one of my ignition systems will run for hours on the battery that started it. The points system will work all the way down to the 9 volt range. Electronic ignitions with computers on other alternative engines have demonstrated as little as 20 minutes flight time with very serious consequences after a charging system failure.”
It is true that this doesn’t factor in the electrical consumption of the fuel pumps. On a 601XL (unless you want to buy the 601HD header tank I have lying around) gravity feed isn’t an option. For a 601XL Corvair I would lean towards a larger battery than in (say) a Jabiru configuration.
-- Craig
From: Craig Payne [mailto:craig(at)craigandjean.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:49 PM
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Subject: RE: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Actually I’m recalling a test on a test stand on the ground where the alternator was deliberately disconnected and the engine allowed to run till it died. I’ll see if I can find the entry on William’s web site.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of william Clapp
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:36 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Craig - you are partially correct. We did have an airplane have an emergency landing due to low battery voltage and the pumps shut down and engine quit. That is why I like the gravity feed system. If you have the sual pumps then insure that you have a constant 12v to run the system. Call me for more info. 229-506 7741 Bill
Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com> wrote:
The engine in a car has a mechanical pump. In William Wynne’s standard conversion the mechanical pump is discarded and two specific identical Facet electric pumps are plumbed in series. Only one pump is powered at a time. The pump model is chosen such that fuel will flow when the pump is not powered.
An all-electric fuel system sounds scary but the (dual) points/coil ignition system used also requires power. But the auto conversions with an ECU (Subaru I believe) is in the same boat. I believe that William has run tests that show that if your alternator dies the battery can run the pumps and ignition for an hour or so.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ella
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:38 AM
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Subject: Re: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Hi
Does the Corvair engine have a mech. fuel pump or electric
Thanks Don
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From: william Clapp (iflykrs(at)yahoo.com)
To: krnet(at)mylist.net (krnet(at)mylist.net) ; corvaircraft(at)mylist.net (corvaircraft(at)mylist.net) ; Zenith (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:21 AM
Subject: More Corvair stuff and aviation services available.....
Howdy folks. For that last couple years I have been working closely with some people to achieve their goals of flight. Flying around the US and getting to know many of you has led me to expand a bit more of the parts and services that I am providing. I am currently working on renewing my CFI for Light Sport to help with instruction and helping pilots grow in their skills. I also have also included Prepurchase inspection and Ferry capabilities to the services I provide. These services will be added to my website (billclapp.com) shortly.
Since much of my time still has to be at home (single dad) I have also increased my capabilities in servicing corvair engines and helping builders with their installations. My Corvair services page will show how I can help. New additions to the page are custom rebuilt distributors, custom exhaust systems and parts, and my prop hub design that is available. Call or email me for availability and use. Much of my time is spent in helping individual builders with their individual needs who have their aiplanes here at my shop so I am limited with the quantity of service I can provide. However, you think that I can help you pleas feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to see whether I can help or direct you to a cource that can fill your needs.
Thank you...Bill Clapp
Bill Clapp - KR2S builder and pilot
Valdosta GA
www.billclapp.com
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