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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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 Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic |
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Hi
One the strength of Dave Saylor's recommendation and other comments, I purchased the AirlinkTech video on using Silpruf to set install windows. The video can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2ndhr9
I watched the video last night and have a few comments, FWIW.
First, a big negative - it’s on a VHS tape not on a DVD. After that it was a very nice "how to" video.
In short the process used is to mask the windows and then set them in place on small Silpruf standoffs that keep the windows flush with the canopy. A bead of Silpuf is used to install the windows. Screw on clecos are used to keep everything in pace while things dry.
The video is very detailed and shows everything required, step by step. It explains how and why to mask the windows to get a nice sharp reveal. It also shows how to trim the windows for a perfect fit.
A groove (about 1/8") is left between the windows and the canopy. After painting, Silpruf is used to fill the groove. Apparently Silpruf cannot be painted so you must pick a Silpuf colour that works with your pain scheme.
At first blush there seems to be some obvious advantages to this method they being:
<![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>The Silpruf has a long working time so you don’t have to play “beat the clock” when installing.
<![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>The Silpruf is non reactive so you can use normal masking tape to setup the “reveal” edges. You will have lots of time to get everything just right before you have to remove the masks.
<![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>The Silpruf is flexible so there won’t be cracks in the paint / caulking around the windows
<![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>In the event that a window needs to be replaced. It would be a much easier job to remove & replace the window *I think*.
<![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>You are not glassing onto a window with all the associated issues with sanding etc. As someone mentioned in an earlier post, with windows you can’t fix a screw up with an OOPS rivet.
<![if !supportLists]>· <![endif]>Before curing and after, excess along the groove can be easily removed.
A quick search shows that Silpruf is available in a wide choice of colours including: White, Black, Limestone, Light Grey, Aluminium, GreyDark, Grey, Precast White and Bronze.
Right after I watched the video I checked the plans to see how the front window is installed. My recollection was there was no “joggle” at the bottom of the front windscreen. Using Silpruf on the front windscreen would, I think, require building a joggle and then trimming the window to fit. I just noticed that Dave noted this rework in one of his posts as well.
The video is very detailed and shows everything required, step by step. It explains how and why to mask the windows to get a nice sharp reveal. It also shows how to trim the windows for a perfect fit. If you are contemplating using this method, get the video, it is well worth the cost.
Anyway, I for one plan to use this method on the side windows. I still have a lot of time to contemplate the front windscreen…..
Cheers
Les Kearney
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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic |
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Les,
Are you suggesting to install the front windsheild with this method? I am using Silpruf on the doors and cabin glass but plan to follow plans on the windscreen... If anyone gets the chance to check out a Cirrus, you will see similar install on their windows. just a bead of adhesive seperating the window from the composite. Looks really clean, if ya'll do it right.....would love to check out that video...just too poor from buying the Silpruf. And Les is right...it's high performance silicone, you couldn't paint it if you tried. The big trick is to get the gap as uniform as possible prior to the install. If you use Dave's method it works well. After paint you fill the gap...I'm shooting for less than an 1/8th, closer to 3/32 to a 1/16th with the silpruf. leave the bead to dry then a sharp razor to trim the bead flush, should leave you a nice clean line between the plexi and the composite top.
Rick Sked
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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic |
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Rick
Buy the video. Sell the kids if you have to raise the cash. There are a few tricks that make it worth the $30. Especially getting the gap spot on perfect.
As far as the wind screen is concerned, I would like to use this method but as a rank amateur, I am not sure I want to be the first to try. I bet that piece of plexi is not cheap.
Cheers
Les
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Subject: Re: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic
Les,
Are you suggesting to install the front windsheild with this method? I am using Silpruf on the doors and cabin glass but plan to follow plans on the windscreen... If anyone gets the chance to check out a Cirrus, you will see similar install on their windows. just a bead of adhesive seperating the window from the composite. Looks really clean, if ya'll do it right.....would love to check out that video...just too poor from buying the Silpruf. And Les is right...it's high performance silicone, you couldn't paint it if you tried. The big trick is to get the gap as uniform as possible prior to the install. If you use Dave's method it works well. After paint you fill the gap...I'm shooting for less than an 1/8th, closer to 3/32 to a 1/16th with the silpruf. leave the bead to dry then a sharp razor to trim the bead flush, should leave you a nice clean line between the plexi and the composite top.
Rick Sked
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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: Silpruf / Window Installation and other magic |
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Ok Les...you convinced me, but since I have no children, I hope my neighbors don't miss one of theirs. They have three, what's one less 
Rick Sked
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