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vallierracing(at)HOTMAIL.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: Looking for plans

i'm looking for someone who is selling a set of plans for a zodiac 601 xl 

  

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 Adam

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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Looking for plans

Adam,  Zenith would be more than willing to sell you a brand new set. Give them a call.



Jay in Dallas

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Adam V <vallierracing(at)HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:



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		  i'm looking for someone who is selling a set of plans for a zodiac 601 xl



Thanks

Adam

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MHerder

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: Re: Looking for plans

If you wish to simply view a set I'm sure a local builder would be more than willing.  Myself included if you are in the Dallas area, however I am sure that you will not find any economy in simply buying a set of plans from someone else.  



Remember this, you are not buying plans.... You are buying a serial # and support.  You will have questions through the build and the folks at Zenith are who you want to talk to to get questions resolved.  If you have no serial #, I wouldn't blame them for not answering any questions.  In all fairness why should they.  They are a company with a goal to make profit, not a charity.  When you are all said and done with, you will find the 400 or so dollars for the plans isn't even a drop in the bucket.

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FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: Looking for plans

Just a question here.....  When/if one would buy second-hand plans, would 

they not come with their assigned serial number?  If so, wouldn't this solve 

the problem of which you speak?  If not, why not?  Could a discussion be had 

with Zenith to transfer the serial number to the new owner of the plans? 

Would this not be to the benefit of Zenith?  After all, they would stand to 

gain another flying aircraft of their design instead of having the plans go 

unused.  In this scenario, Zenith has already received their money from the 

original purchase of the plans.  So, then, why wouldn't one try to find a 

discounted set of plans from a now-disinterested builder?  Just some 

thoughts.....



Bob Taylor

Wadsworth, Ohio

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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Looking for plans

Zenith does have a transfer program for plans or kits. Here is a link to some more information. It's tied in with a scam alert so scroll down some.



The thing is you probably won't save a whole lot by buying used plans.



http://www.zenithair.com/scam-alert.html

 	  FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com wrote: 	
		  Just a question here.....  When/if one would buy second-hand plans, would 

they not come with their assigned serial number?  If so, wouldn't this solve 

the problem of which you speak?  If not, why not?  Could a discussion be had 

with Zenith to transfer the serial number to the new owner of the plans? 

Would this not be to the benefit of Zenith?  After all, they would stand to 

gain another flying aircraft of their design instead of having the plans go 

unused.  In this scenario, Zenith has already received their money from the 

original purchase of the plans.  So, then, why wouldn't one try to find a 

discounted set of plans from a now-disinterested builder?  Just some 

thoughts.....



Bob Taylor

Wadsworth, Ohio

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davgray(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: Looking for plans

Adam

  

 One more thought. Zenith also updates the plans set with  the latest changes which makes it a lot easier to construct the  

 aircraft without referring to addendum sheets and hope you  see the change before you do the construction.

 Although you can get an updated set, if I remember  for $75, you would have to add that cost to the older sets price to  

 really have what you want. I would order the new set and  know you are starting off on good terms with Zenith.  Unless  the

 plan set is very recent and I discussed the transfer with  Zenith.

  

 Gary Ray

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 601XL    TT 66 hrs  WW Corvair 0.020  over

  

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JohnDRead(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: Looking for plans

Bob,

        I believe what you are suggesting  is covered by a phone call and $50.00 to Zenith to officially change the  registered owner of a plan set. 

  

 John  Read



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Fax: 303-648-3262

Cell: 719-494-4567   

  In a message dated 3/18/2008 9:36:33 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com writes:

 [quote]-->    Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Taylor"    <FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com>



Just a question here.....  When/if one    would buy second-hand plans, would 

they not come with their assigned    serial number?  If so, wouldn't this solve 

the problem of which you    speak?  If not, why not?  Could a discussion be had 

with Zenith    to transfer the serial number to the new owner of the plans? 

Would this    not be to the benefit of Zenith?  After all, they would stand to 

gain    another flying aircraft of their design instead of having the plans go    

unused.  In this scenario, Zenith has already received their money    from the 

original purchase of the plans.  So, then, why wouldn't one    try to find a 

discounted set of plans from a now-disinterested    builder?  Just some 

thoughts.....



Bob Taylor

Wadsworth,    Ohio

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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: Looking for plans

when I bought mine there was no charge to change ownership/registration.



JohnDRead(at)aol.com wrote:[quote]     Bob,

        I believe what you are suggesting  is covered by a phone call and $50.00 to Zenith to officially change the  registered owner of a plan set. 

  

 John  Read



Phone: 303-648-3261

Fax: 303-648-3262

Cell: 719-494-4567   

  In a message dated 3/18/2008 9:36:33 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com writes:

 [quote]-->    Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Taylor"    <FlyDad57(at)neo.rr.com>



Just a question here.....  When/if one    would buy second-hand plans, would 

they not come with their assigned    serial number?  If so, wouldn't this solve 

the problem of which you    speak?  If not, why not?  Could a discussion be had 

with Zenith    to transfer the serial number to the new owner of the plans? 

Would this    not be to the benefit of Zenith?  After all, they would stand to 

gain    another flying aircraft of their design instead of having the plans go    

unused.  In this scenario, Zenith has already received their money    from the 

original purchase of the plans.  So, then, why wouldn't one    try to find a 

discounted set of plans from a now-disinterested    builder?   Just some 

thoughts.....



Bob Taylor

Wadsworth,    Ohio

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psm(at)ATT.NET
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: Looking for plans

Hi Bob,



One thing to consider when it comes to buying airplane plans.  The 

details of the design are frequently changed at Zenith.  You must 

assume that some of the changes are actually improvements.



With all the money it costs to build a plane, it seems that saving a 

few bucks on the plans is false economy.  In my case, the plans cost 

is less than one percent of the total plane cost. I would suggest 

that getting new plans and considering updating them in the middle of 

your build process would be a wiser choice.



Paul

XL fuselage

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At 08:34 AM 3/18/2008, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Just a question here.....  When/if one would buy second-hand plans, 

would they not come with their assigned serial number?  If so, 

wouldn't this solve the problem of which you speak?  If not, why 

not?  Could a discussion be had with Zenith to transfer the serial 

number to the new owner of the plans? Would this not be to the 

benefit of Zenith?  After all, they would stand to gain another 

flying aircraft of their design instead of having the plans go 

unused.  In this scenario, Zenith has already received their money 

from the original purchase of the plans.  So, then, why wouldn't one 

try to find a discounted set of plans from a now-disinterested 

builder?  Just some thoughts.....



Bob Taylor

Wadsworth, Ohio

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