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patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: Intercom

Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax  engine and want to know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be  using an Icom A200 radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high  noise level and squelech ability. What one should I use? Anybody out there have  a good used one for sale?

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

  

  

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Intercom

 	  Quote: 	
		  Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200 radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high noise level and squelech ability. What one should I use? Anybody out there have a good used one for sale? 	




Pat, Sigtronics has one that is supposed to be for high noise environments.

http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/Intercoms/Sigtronics.html

My Kitfox is noisy in the cabin with that 2 stroke screaming out there.  It's funny people sometimes comment how quiet it is when I fly over.  Anyhow, I have a Comtronics but havent tried it yet.  I will be anxious to see if anyone has some tips for dealing with the noise.

_________________
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA

Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: Intercom

Pat,

 I have a Sigtronics SPA-400 and RES-2 Audio Switcher with Sigtronics 

stereo headset. I also have an A200 radio. I don't have any real 

experience with it however since it came installed in the damaged model 

2 I bought to restore. So far I've only powered the panel to check the 

radio and listened to ATIS. My plane has similar components to yours and 

I think it should work well. The original builder I bought it from 

seemed to like it.



--

Rex Hefferan

SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs



Pat Reilly wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to 

 know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom 

 A200 radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high 

 noise level and squelech ability. What one should I use? Anybody out 

 there have a good used one for sale?

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

_________________
Rex
N740GP - M2/582
Colorado

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: Intercom

At 08:24 AM 3/19/2008, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I have a Sigtronics SPA-400 and RES-2 Audio Switcher with Sigtronics 

stereo headset. I also have an A200 radio. I don't have any real 

experience with it however since it came installed in the damaged 

model 2 I bought to restore. So far I've only powered the panel to 

check the radio and listened to ATIS. My plane has similar 

components to yours and I think it should work well. The original 

builder I bought it from seemed to like it.


	


         I'm very happy with my SPA-400 and A200. The only thing I 

would do over would be to pay more attention to wire routing, keeping 

all electrical power generation wires well away from anything to do 

with avionics. I've got a little alternator whine.

Guy Buchanan

San Diego, CA

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

_________________
Guy Buchanan
Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: Intercom

Rex, What is a RES Audio switcher? Do not archieve

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 Rebuild

 Rockford , IL



 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:24:50 -0600

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Intercom

 From: hefferans(at)gmail.com

 

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rexinator <hefferans(at)gmail.com>

 

 Pat,

 I have a Sigtronics SPA-400 and RES-2 Audio Switcher with Sigtronics 

 stereo headset. I also have an A200 radio. I don't have any real 

 experience with it however since it came installed in the damaged model 

 2 I bought to restore. So far I've only powered the panel to check the 

 radio and listened to ATIS. My plane has similar components to yours and 

 I think it should work well. The original builder I bought it from 

 seemed to like it.

 

 --

 Rex Hefferan

 SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs

 

 

 

 Pat Reilly wrote:

 

 > Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to 

 > know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom 

 > A200 radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high 

 > noise level and squelech ability. What one should I use? Anybody out 

 > there have a good used one for sale?

 > 

 > Pat Reilly

 > Mod 3 Rebuild

 > Rockford, I=============

patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: Intercom

Tom, Thanks for the info. I saw that intercom in ACS catalog. I was hoping to find a used intercom, but will probably end up with a new one of those.

  

 Do not archive

  

 Pat Reilly



 	  Quote: 	
		   Subject: Re: Intercom

 From: nahsikhs(at)elltel.net

 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:04:30 -0700

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs(at)elltel.net>

 

 

 > Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200 radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high noise level and squelech ability. What one should I use? Anybody out there have a good used one for sale? 

 

 

 Pat, Sigtronics has one that is supposed to be for high noise environments.

 http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/Intercoms/Sigtronics.html

 My Kitfox is noisy in the cabin with that 2 stroke screaming out there. It's funny people sometimes comment how quiet it is when I fly over. Anyhow, I have a Comtronics but havent tried it yet. I will be anxious to see if anyone has some tips for dealing with the noise.

 

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 Tom Jones

 Classic IV

 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp

 Ellensburg, WA

 

 

 

 

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Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: Intercom

It's a circuit that allows alternate audio (music for instance) to be 

heard while monitoring the communications channels. Any audio from the 

communications radio will override/mute the music so you don't miss ATC 

calls. Also a passenger can listen to music and not be interrupted by 

ATC. The fellow who built my Kitfox installed a AM/FM casette radio in 

the panel. I removed it (the AM/FM) and may install an MP3 player with 

radio, I'm not sure. Having an AM/FM radio at altitude may make channel 

isolation a problem at times I think.



-- 

Rex Hefferan

SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs



patrick reilly wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Rex, What is a RES Audio switcher? Do not archive

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 Rebuild

 Rockford , IL



 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:24:50 -0600

 > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 > Subject: Re: Intercom

 > From: hefferans(at)gmail.com

 >

 > 

 >

 > Pat,

 > I have a Sigtronics SPA-400 and RES-2 Audio Switcher with Sigtronics

 > stereo headset. I also have an A200 radio. I don't have any real

 > experience with it however since it came installed in the damaged model

 > 2 I bought to restore. So far I've only powered the panel to check the

 > radio and listened to ATIS. My plane has similar components to yours 

 and

 > I think it should work well. The original builder I bought it from

 > seemed to like it.

 >

 > --

 > Rex Hefferan

 > SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs

_________________
Rex
N740GP - M2/582
Colorado

Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: Intercom

If your audio is powered by the engine you could try an RF choke on your

power line to notch out the whine.



Noel



--

_________________
Noel Loveys
Kitfox III-A
Aerocet 1100 Floats

msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: Intercom

Pat,

   

  Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with side-tone that serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole and works great. The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the intercom mic is always "hot" can result in alot of background noise. To counter this I have a toggle switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise passengers, "if you have to talk to me, flip this switch." Keeps the chit-chat down.



Pat Reilly <patreilly43(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

  [quote]        Kitfoxers, I am rebuilding a Mod 3 with a 582 Rotax engine and want to know what panel mounted intercom to install. I will be using an Icom A200 radio if that makes any difference. I am concerned about high  [quote][b]

patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: Intercom

Marco, Thanks for the info. I am still selecting intercoms to match up with my Icom IC-A200.  Are you the Kitfoxer located in Puerto Rico?

  

 Do not archive

  

 Pat Reilly

 Mod 3 Rebuild

 Rockford, IL

 [quote]  Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:42:13 -0700

From: msm_9949(at)yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Intercom

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com



 Pat,

  

 Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with side-tone that serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole and works great. The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the intercom mic is always "hot" can result in alot of background noise. To counter this I have a toggle switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise passengers, "if you have to talk to me, flip this switch." Keeps the chit-chat down.



Pat Reilly <patreilly43(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

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andynfultz(at)bellsouth.n
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: Intercom

Pat,   

  

   I have  no idea what the trade difference might be but Icom has a newer version of your  radio that has several new bells and whistles.  Among them is a built in  voice activated intercom and dual watch. I think it's the IC-A210.  NO new  holes needed in the panel.

  

 Andy  F.

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patreilly43(at)hotmail.co
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: Intercom

[quote]  From: andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Intercom

Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:37:51 -0500

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   I have no idea what the trade difference might be but Icom has a newer version of your radio that has several new bells and whistles.  Among them is a built in voice activated intercom and dual watch. I think it's the IC-A210.  NO new holes needed in the panel.

 Andy F.

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msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: Intercom

No, sadly, I'm in Michigan wishing I was in Puerto Rico.



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  [quote]  [quote]  [quote]Marco, Thanks for the info. I am still selecting intercoms to match up with my Icom IC-A200.  Are you the Kitfoxer located in Puerto Rico?

 

Do not archive

 

Pat Reilly

Mod 3 Rebuild

Rockford, IL

   	  Quote: 	
		      Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:42:13 -0700

From: msm_9949(at)yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Intercom

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com



  Pat,

   

  Rather that an intercom, I installed a Micro-Air M720 radio with side-tone that serves as an intercom. The unit is tiny, fits into a 2" hole and works great. The only disadvantage is that with the side-tone, the intercom mic is always "hot" can result  in alot of background noise. To counter this I have a toggle switch to turn the intercom off/on. I advise passengers, "if you have to talk to me, flip this switch." Keeps the chit-chat down.



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