Matronics Email Lists Forum Index Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
 
 Get Email Distribution Too!Get Email Distribution Too!    FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand new)

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> AeroElectric-List
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
rv-9a-online(at)telus.net
Guest





PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand new) Reply with quote

A friend had a Plane Power alternator fail after his first flight.

Apparently, he left the Master "on" (in ALT position) for 30-40 minutes
while he was working on the plane, and after that he noticed that his ALT
Field enable fuse was blown. It happened to a replacement fuse as well.

I checked the wiring right to the alternator-- no fault with it unplugged.
I can't measure any shorts to ground on the Alternator pins.

My theory is the the internal voltage regulator overheated and failed short.
My theory is that it would overheat because there was no airflow and was
providing maximum field current for a long time.

Has anyone else experienced this or have an alternate diagnosis?

Thanks, Vern Little


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
Back to top
Tim Olson



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand new) Reply with quote

I'm not sure if the theory is good or bad, but I can say that I've left
my master on for a very very long time before....many hours, as opposed
to those 30-40 minutes, and I've never seen anything like that. I
suppose the regulator or something could have gone bad, but I'd also
check real well for any wiring errors. First off though, I'd call them
and see what they say...they'll know better than most people, and I
bet they take care of it right away.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

Vernon Little wrote:
Quote:


A friend had a Plane Power alternator fail after his first flight.

Apparently, he left the Master "on" (in ALT position) for 30-40 minutes
while he was working on the plane, and after that he noticed that his ALT
Field enable fuse was blown. It happened to a replacement fuse as well.

I checked the wiring right to the alternator-- no fault with it unplugged.
I can't measure any shorts to ground on the Alternator pins.

My theory is the the internal voltage regulator overheated and failed short.
My theory is that it would overheat because there was no airflow and was
providing maximum field current for a long time.

Has anyone else experienced this or have an alternate diagnosis?

Thanks, Vern Little




- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
klehman(at)albedo.net
Guest





PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand new) Reply with quote

Would not surprise me Vern. My wee ND IR alternator draws a couple of
amps and heats up quite noticeably with the engine off and the IGN
terminal (and B+ lead) connected to the battery. Fortunately the OV
relay lets me disconnect it by opening the alternator control switch.
Ken

Vernon Little wrote:
Quote:


A friend had a Plane Power alternator fail after his first flight.

Apparently, he left the Master "on" (in ALT position) for 30-40 minutes
while he was working on the plane, and after that he noticed that his ALT
Field enable fuse was blown. It happened to a replacement fuse as well.

I checked the wiring right to the alternator-- no fault with it unplugged.
I can't measure any shorts to ground on the Alternator pins.

My theory is the the internal voltage regulator overheated and failed short.
My theory is that it would overheat because there was no airflow and was
providing maximum field current for a long time.

Has anyone else experienced this or have an alternate diagnosis?

Thanks, Vern Little



- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
Back to top
tomvelvick



Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
Location: Peoria, AZ

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand new) Reply with quote

Hi Vern,
When my battery is low the Plane Power Alt pulls over 4 amps with the master on. I have had it pop my 5amp field breaker. I increased my C/B to 7 amps and haven't had any more problems. Once the engine is running, the currents drops down to less than 1/2 amp on the field line.
Regards,
Tom Velvick


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
rv-9a-online(at)telus.net
Guest





PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand new) Reply with quote

We checked this, and blew 10A fuse immediately. Alternator is kaput.

V

--


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
Back to top
gmcjetpilot



Joined: 04 Nov 2006
Posts: 170

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand new) Reply with quote

Gentlemen all, you are gussing.

Call PP & send it back. Get the real reason. PP does modify the
regulator & therefore he's the source of creditable facts. I can say
a stock ND should not get hot with BAT/ALT on, but I stand to
be corrected. I never tried it. However............

For a regular internally regulated ND alternator, if it uses more than
50 millivolts, with the engine shut down you have voltage regulator or
diode issue. Internally regulated alternators do not have a FIELD
WIRE of course.


>From: Ken <klehman(at)albedo.net (klehman(at)albedo.net)>
Quote:
Subject: Re: Plane Power Alternator Failure (brand
new)

>Would not surprise me Vern. My wee ND IR alternator draws a couple of
Quote:
amps and heats up quite noticeably with the engine off and the IGN
terminal (and B+ lead) connected to the battery. Fortunately the OV
relay lets me disconnect it by opening the alternator control switch.
Ken

Ken is it possible you are reading more than the alternator? Master contactor?

[quote][b]


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> AeroElectric-List All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group