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IFLYSMODEL(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: Pre Build Planning

Hey gang: I have been doing some thinking (probably more than I should)  about what I am going to need to put the Lightning together (with builders  assist). I realize everyone is busy at SYI getting the #2 demo ready for Sun N  Fun, so it is understandable not getting replies to my questions.

     Are all the electrical system components part of  the kit, or will I have to purchase a lot of them? (I am sure the wire is not  furnished). I am working on a wiring diagram, and wondered about things like  battery relay, starter relay, over voltage relay, firewall fittings for  wire/fuel pass through, electrical connections for wing/tail lights (for ease of  removal/reinstallation) etc. What advice can those who preceded me  provide?

     I am supposed to start on April 21 st and must say  that I am getting pretty excited about the whole thing. 

 Lynn Nelsen



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mark(at)flylightning.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:38 am Post subject: Pre Build Planning

Hi Lynn,

  

 I answered some of these questions in  another e-mail to you and I'll try to cover the others here.

  

 We do not include a master or battery relay,  we don't use them unless our customers request them. The starter relay is  included with the engine. There is no over voltage relay, the  regulator/rectifier (included with the engine) takes care of that (any over  voltage is shunted to ground). For electrical pass through we use a simple hole  with a large grommet and high temp RTV. For the fuel we have a stainless steel  fitting that is riveted to the firewall and sealed with RTV. The wing tip  strobes/nav lights use a Molex connector (provided with the lights) and and some  spade connectors (provided by us when you're building here). There is no light  on the tail, they are located in the wingtip strobes/nav lights.

  

 Please forgive us if we're a little slow  answering e-mail. We're very, very busy finishing the new demo so Nick and I are  not in the office much right now.

  

 Thanks for your patience.

  

 Have a great day!

  

 Mark

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Kayberg(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: Pre Build Planning

In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:10:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  IFLYSMODEL(at)aol.com writes:

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		     Hey gang: I have been doing some thinking (probably more than I should)    about what I am going to need to put the Lightning together (with builders    assist). I realize everyone is busy at SYI getting the #2 demo ready for Sun N    Fun, so it is understandable not getting replies to my questions.

       Are all the electrical system components part of    the kit, or will I have to purchase a lot of them? (I am sure the wire is not    furnished). I am working on a wiring diagram, and wondered about things like    battery relay, starter relay, over voltage relay, firewall fittings for    wire/fuel pass through, electrical connections for wing/tail lights (for ease    of removal/reinstallation) etc. What advice can those who preceded me    provide?

       I am supposed to start on April 21 st and must    say that I am getting pretty excited about the whole thing. 

   Lynn Nelsen

	


 

 There has been no shortage of ruckus on this listserve about the charging  system recently.  It is not necessary to overthink the electrical  system.  Jabiru gives some diagrams, my personal suggestion is to keep it  simple.  It is my humble opinion that if you fall into the "what if" trap,  you can build such a redundant electrical system that it cannot be transported  by the aircraft.

  

 Yes, there are some very nice pre-built switch/circuit breaker boards out  there that are quite tempting.  But they can easily lead to exponential  complications.   My advise is to forget all the relays and make it as  simple as you can.  

  

 If you are doing your own wiring at whatever build center you are using,  then the responsibility is yours for buying the wires, switches, guages, relays,  widgets, overcontrollers, underwhelmers headlights, taillights and horn.   You may install autopilots, servowackers, tubing benders and mousetraps to your  hearts content, however it is easy to spend more time installing a panel than it  takes to build the rest of the airplane!!!  

  

 Also, remember that troubleshooting a complicated panel is a recognized  form of torture in most civilized countries.  You can practice by  leaning into a metal 55 gal trash can and scrubbing the inside lower  seam with a toothbrush until your legs go numb and your arms fall  off.   

  

 But then no one listens to me

  

 Doug



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N1BZRich(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: Pre Build Planning

Hi Lynn,

     Doug and Mark have answered your questions, but let  me add a recommendation if I may.  Unless you are an aircraft electrical  wizard (and I emphasize the word aircraft, not just someone with a EE  degree), I would let them do your panel and also let them make  recommendations on the type and brand of equipment to use.  Things go so  much smoother and quicker if they are installing equipment that they are  familiar with.  It will save you money (time) and headaches in the long  run.  For example, the panel on the new 2008 demo looks great, has all the  latest bells and whistles, and I will bet you dollars to donuts that it will  work properly the first time they turn everything on.  I guess you could  say you are paying for their expertise, so use it to the max extent  possible.  

     You are really going to enjoy the build  process.  They are a great group to work with even though Mike is a Ford  man (be sure to call him "Moostang") and Mark is in the process of growing a  beard (perhaps his lady friend likes it), but it kind of looks like velcro tape  to me.  I am sure he will kick my butt tomorrow for saying this, but hey,  sometimes fiction is funnier than the truth.  

     Actually Mike is leaving Wednesday to drive to  Wisconsin to pick up your kit, so they are already planning for your  arrival.  Have you designed a paint scheme and picked your colors  yet.  Don't let the fact that this is the Easter season cloud your mind  with weird Easter egg colors.  

 Blue Skies,

 Buz



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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: Pre Build Planning

Hey Mark: Thank you for your replies. As a recommendation, I think a lot of  this could be avoided if there was a list of parts included when a person  purchases a kit or engine. I must admit that I have not even received a receipt  of any kind for my deposit (that is why I sent it via return receipt). I do  realize that Pete & company are honest, but it may not hurt to take a look  at some of the business practices.

 Lynn



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mark(at)flylightning.net
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Pre Build Planning

Lynn,

  

 I've sent you a message off  list.

  

 Have a great day!

  

 Mark

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