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schrick(at)pacbell.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T problem

That is not the individual. I found out who the person was that wrote the email.

  

 I do not wish to devulge his name at this time but he is very well known in the Yak community and highly respected.

  

 This issue is this. The problem that was stated in the email is true. Dennis Saverese is working to resolve at this time but it has taken two years and $50K with no aircraft. Dennis is in Lithavania currently to resolve this issue with lawyers and state police. I am hoping the Lutarius ends up in jail and will no longer be able to sell to USA and other individuals. The person that wrote the blog is trying to raise issues that an 80 year old man has very little time to remain flying and either needs the plane or the money before May 2008. He just wants one or the other by this time frame. Dennis needs to provide one or the other before this date. This is what is the person wants to happen soon. He does not wish to harm Dennis just get his full attention and resolve the issue soon. Hope hope this happens for all at stake.

  

 Beware the parts and engines are becoming harder to find in the Eastern block. If you can find parts, BUY THEM NOW for the price will only increase over time. Aeromotors is building new engines with alunimum cases milled to factory specifications. This is great but at a higher cost. Stronger case also than cast. 

  

 As a middleman for many years, I have found that time is measured differently in the Eastern block countries than here in the USA. We tend to want things yeasterday and they ship it when they can or feel like it. 

  

 Be careful out there and stock pile those parts when you can and if you have the money, purchase a back up engine soon before to late. They will never go down in value.

  

 Good luck and hope this helps.

  

 Mark "SHREK" Schrick

 San Jose, Ca

 



 

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T problem

One correction, it has not been 2 years.  The order was  placed in January of '07 and I have been working with an attorney since October  '07 to try and obtain the refund.

 Dennis

  

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Bill Tally

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T problem

Whatever the dispute and regardless or who is right or wrong, this message board is NOT the place to air all this out.   Go to court if you must, but it is not appropriate to use an anonymous Internet forum to "get someone's attention" by character attacks and threats of violence.  How could anyone read the original post with its vitriolic attacks and threats of physical harm and conclude that the writer "meant no harm"?  There should be a mechanism on this board to request deletion of such material.

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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T problem

Mark, I apologize and it very well might not matter to you, but the

person who sent that email to so many other people did so by spoofing a

SMTP mailer and clearly wanted to hide who he was.  People who send

email, especially of the type and nature that this one was... Who do not

sign their names... Are acting in a cowardly manner and as such I do not

associate with them.  



The fact that you tend to make light of what he did, do not identify him

in the process (when you claim to know who he is), and further try to

almost justify his actions lowers my opinion of you personally.  



Clearly this man is a personal friend of yours and you are just trying

to take the edge off of his actions.  I.E. "It's all just a sad story"



Regardless, I wanted to be straight up with you and tell you in public

that is how I feel. 



Of course, how I feel is pretty much worthless anyway, and I will be the

first to admit it, but I will also submit to you that you probably

should have never written what you just did. 



Mark Bitterlich



P.s.  I suspect that he probably is an Eighty year old man that feels

that he has been took.  That said I feel very sorry for him.  However,

his actions in this regard were questionable.  When he did not lend his

name to them, they became cowardly.  His .sig with the "Semper Fi"

really stoked my boiler.  



 



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schrick(at)pacbell.net
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T problem

Mark Bitterlich, 

  

While I appreciate your remarks, I feel condemning me was wrong on your part. You are correct that I should not have gotten in the middle of this mess and was only trying to help all involved. But as usual it opens me up to BS like this and for that I was wrong. 

  

I hope the issue is resolved in the near future and that we can go back to discussing YAKs and being careful out there from dealers like Latorus. I really don't have time for this BS and was only trying to help.  

  

Checking out now. (No you are wrong the 80 year old man was not the one that wrote the email but a close friend trying to help him in a bad situation). If the individual wishes to expose himself after the BS email I have just recieved then he can. I would advice him not to after this BS email. Why open it up and have the group feel better. 

  

SHREK 



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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T problem

It seems this is my day to preach what I believe in.  Oh well... 



SHREK you are welcome to believe what you will, and I respect the fact

that I made you upset, angry, or whatever word you wish to attach to it.

Take your pick.   



I feel that it was wrong for you to make light of the incident and keep

the name of the party involved private.  



You discussed your viewpoints on the matter in public.  



So did I.  



The end result is that first I was upset, and now you are upset.  



So.. Now we're both upset.  I'll be over it in about 10 minutes.   



The man who started this mess is the one who wrote the original email

bad mouthing Dennis and intentionally hid his identity to begin with,

mistake number 1.  In fact:   



1.  It would have been smart for no one to copy that message to this

list. 

2.  It would have been smarter if NO ONE (including me) replied to the

email itself. Including yours.

3.  It would have been even more smart if you did not write what you

did. 

4.  And it would have showed REALLY good self control if I had not

replied. Which I sometimes do NOT have.   



WE WERE ALL WRONG.  And I fully admit to my part in it.   



If the guy who started this wants to fess up, say he made a mistake and

was sorry that he did so, I will respect him and his character.  WE ALL

MAKE MISTAKES!  You, me, him and who knows how many more. I believe it

takes character to admit when you're wrong.   I was wrong.  



However, I also believe you should not protect these kind of people, and

you do not condone their actions in any way, and you should encourage

them to admit their mistakes and not to hide behind anonymity instead.

I'm glad it was not the 80 year old.  



Mark Bitterlich



  



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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Dennis Saverese issue on Yak 18T problem

On Mar 26, 2008, at 6:01 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,  

MALS-14 64E wrote:



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 Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil>



 It seems this is my day to preach what I believe in.  Oh well...


	


Well boys and girls, you let the troll win. <sigh>



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