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rlaird

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: FS II Gas Tanks & FAR 103.7

Dana --

You needed to post just a little bit more on AC103-7:  "a. Determination of Fuel Capacity.  The total volume, including all available 

space for usable and unusable fuel in the fuel tank or tanks on the vehicle is the total fuel capacity."  That makes it clear that you can't even have a separate, sealed gas can anywhere on the vehicle, if it and your available fuel exceeds 5 gallons.  It's a pretty rigid rule, unfortunately.

  -- Robert

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net (d-m-hague(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

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		    At 11:32 PM 3/26/2008, HShack(at)aol.com (HShack(at)aol.com) wrote:

 >  

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		   I always thought no more than 5 gal. could be on the plane under FAR 103,

 now , I hear that you can carry all you want as long as only 5 gal. is

 connected to the engine.......nicht war? 

 >  So, as I understand it,  that means I can have my two 5 gal. tanks on board

 	  Quote: 	
		   with quick dis-connects but only one connected to the engine?  [Can't be

 changed in flight]  Make a 1 hour flight, then swap to the other tank for

 > return trip?

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  From AC103-7:

  "The maximum fuel capacity for a powered ultralight vehicle is 5 U.S.

 gallons.  Any powered ultralight with fuel tank(s) exceeding this capacity

 > is ineligible for operation as an ultralight vehicle."

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  A case could be made for a gas can that's not part of the aircraft (i.e.

 baggage) as not counting toward the 5 gallons, but I would think (or more

 > important, any roving FAA inspector would think) that an actual tank built

[quote] into the aircraft, whether connected or not, would be part of the aircraft's

 "fuel capacity".

  -Dana

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: FS II Gas Tanks & FAR 103.7

Yeah, yeah, I know, but the most obvious illegality of my fat baby is the 2  plainly marked 5 gallon tanks.

  

 I have been a "just fly"er for the last 8 years & will remain so until  they pry the stick out of my cold, dead fingers.[img]http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201d20638/08[/img]  Flame  away..............

  

 Shack

FS  II

  

  In a message dated 3/27/2008 9:23:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  ul15rhb(at)juno.com writes:

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		  First of    all, a Firestar II has two seats making it ineligible to fly under Part 103.    Secondly, it weighs far more than the legal limit of 254 lbs and there isn't    any way it could be made light enough to fit in the ultralight category.    



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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: Re: FS II Gas Tanks & FAR 103.7

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		  Yeah, yeah, I know, but the most obvious illegality of my fat baby is the 2  plainly marked 5 gallon tanks.

  

 I have been a "just fly"er for the last 8 years & will remain so until  they pry the stick out of my cold, dead fingers.  Flame  away..............

  

 Shack

FS  II 	




It probably wouldn't be a good idea to fly into any airports. If you have flown with friends in the past, this will certainly put a damper on your fun. The fines are going to be stiff. 



Good luck ...



Ralph

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: FS II Gas Tanks & FAR 103.7

Hey , Just change the labels on the 5 gal tanks - to  2 1/2 gals



He he he



Mike & "Jaz" in MN / 10 gals and want more...

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[quote="HShack(at)aol.com"]Yeah, yeah, I know, but the most obvious illegality of my fat baby is the 2  plainly marked 5 gallon tanks.

  

 I have been a "just fly"er for the last 8 years & will remain so until  they pry the stick out of my cold, dead fingers.[img]http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201d20638/08[/img]  Flame  away..............

  

 Shack

FS  II

  

  In a message dated 3/27/2008 9:23:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  ul15rhb(at)juno.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  First of    all, a Firestar II has two seats making it ineligible to fly under Part 103.    Secondly, it weighs far more than the legal limit of 254 lbs and there isn't    any way it could be made light enough to fit in the ultralight category.    



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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: FS II Gas Tanks & FAR 103.7

Well it's really just a seat & a half, and a little 

overweight.......... that should be OK.



I actually did print some "5 gallon/18 liter" stick-on labels once - 

to put on a 8 gallon tank when going to

Sun & Fun a long time ago - just in case they looked.



At 05:08 PM 3/27/2008, you wrote:

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Hey , Just change the labels on the 5 gal tanks - to  2 1/2 gals



  I have been a "just fly"er for the last 8 years & will remain so 

 until  they pry the stick out of my cold, dead 

 fingers.[img]http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201d20638/08[/img] 

 Flame  away..............

 > First of    all, a Firestar II has two seats making it ineligible 

 to fly under Part 103.    Secondly, it weighs far more than the 

 legal limit of 254 lbs and there isn't    any way it could be made 

 light enough to fit in the ultralight category.

 >

 > Ralph

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