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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: 582 Cabin Heat. Was Re: skis |
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Len, OK, Thanks for your advice. I will keep the idea of fabricating a heat muff in mind in this rebuild.
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Pat Reilly
Mod 3 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
| Quote: | Subject: 582 Cabin Heat. Was Re: skis
From: akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:36:32 -0700
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If you fly in the winter at the temps we do, the heater core WILL NOT produce enough to keep the windshield clear. I did not get cold as I had on my full snow machining gear but not having forward vis was a little problematic. They have been running heat muffs since the beginning of time in cubs etc. I will take my chances with that and continue to enjoy flying year round.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: 582 Cabin Heat. Was Re: skis |
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While I stand by my previous view of my heater while in flight, I must say that during the ( long) time I am waiting for oil temp to rise to an acceptable temp for takeoff, the heater does tend to take the chill out cockpit. It is kind of nice to have a sytem that does not rely on fast foward motion and exhaust temp to supply at least a bit of comfort.
It's just the opposite of my C-172L, where you just want to get flying as quick as you can just to get some heat forced through the ducts.
(No,I don't have an oil thermostat either.)
I'm just a stupid mechanic\pilot, but wouldn't a combination (installation) of both systems be the best of both worlds??
Steve
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: 582 Cabin Heat. Was Re: skis |
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Forgive me if someone has mentioned this in the past, but has anyone tried to use, for cabin heat, the type of device that is used on (at least) a C-172L to collect hot air for carburetor heat?
It is a simple, foward facing, open-ended stainless box,with small tabs top and bottom, and is attached to an exhaust header with 2 stainless hose clamps. Must weigh all of 3-4 oz's. Airflow in flight forces hot air radiating the pipe to flow to the carb.
This is the best picture I have, but if you zoom in you can see it attached to the rear exhaust header feeding hot air to the carb air box.
Simple, cheap, lightweight, ....and available pre-fabricated.
Just a thought....
Steve
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: 582 Cabin Heat. Was Re: skis |
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Yes.. that's the heat muff. Sometimes people have also stuffed them with
stainless steel Brillo pads to help heat conduction to the air. When using
this type of heater a CO detector is a must!
I have also seen a system on a Rotax 503 where there was a duct taken off
the cooling air for the head and run forward to the cabin of a Challenger.
Noel
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