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bbreckenridge(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the plans say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?

  

 Bruce

 40018 Wings

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ricksked(at)embarqmail.co
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Left them in the cradle. 

Rick S. 

40185

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

On the table.

 Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

Cell: 352-427-0285

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On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:54 PM, bruce breckenridge wrote:[quote]For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the plans say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?

  

 Bruce

 40018 Wings

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daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

I kept them in the cradles.  Deems has some  good photos on his site of the process using wire to hold the skins back while  riveting.  I found this method to work well.

  

 Dave Leikam

 40496 

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coop85(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Cradle – looks like 2:1 so far J  

   

Marcus  

     

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bbreckenridge(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Yeah, I'm hoping "cradle" wins.  My concern is that there's just the slightest sag at the center that pulls together when it's cleco'd.  I may just use a ton of clecos and then support the leading edge better before taking the clecos out.

   

 Go cradle!

  

 Bruce

 On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Marcus Cooper <coop85(at)cableone.net (coop85(at)cableone.net)> wrote:

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Cradle – looks like 2:1 so far J  

  

Marcus 

   

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Tim Olson

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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Flat on the table.  Just thought maybe Van's had a good reason, like

the way the wing would be stressed during riveting.  Probably not,

but it did work well for me.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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bruce breckenridge wrote:

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		   For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the 

 wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the 

 plans say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?

  

 Bruce

 40018 Wings

 

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drfred(at)suddenlinkmail.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Table



2:2



Fred Williams

bruce breckenridge wrote:

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		   For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the 

 wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the 

 plans say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?

  

 Bruce

 40018 Wings

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

On the table.  Worked great.  

     

Rene'  

801-721-6080  

  

   

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

PS…..I had help on about 70% for each wing, did the rest solo…..  

     

Rene'  

801-721-6080  

  

   

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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

In the cradle, by myself.

Jeff Carpenter

40304

Fuse Side Skins

On Mar 30, 2008, at 5:54 PM, bruce breckenridge wrote:

[quote]For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the plans say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?

  

 Bruce

 40018 Wings

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Well, it looks like it's about a tie.  Do it however you feel best between the two methods.  With the leading edge on and the fuel tank installed I don't think it would sag, but you never know until you try it.  Some have done a lot of it themselves, but this is a job, IMHO, for a helper.  It can go quickly (about 3-4 hours per wing) with a helper.  Just make sure, either way you do it, to pad your bucking bar(s) nicely so when (not if) you drop it, it won't damage the wing.



Speaking of which, in case I haven't mentioned it before, the Tungsten bucking bar from Stein is fantastic!  Thanks Stein.

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 Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



 



On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:54 PM, bruce breckenridge wrote:[quote]For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the plans say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?

  

 Bruce

 40018 Wings

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rv(at)thelefflers.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

I can’t offer an opinion on this one quite yet, since I’ll just be putting on the top skins in the next week or so.  

   

I just had the local EAA chapter over to visit my project.  One of the questions I was asked was why the RV-10 didn’t require the use of a wing jig.  Anyone know the answer?     

   

It appears to for the other RV models, building a wing jig and getting everything straight was one of their more frustrating tasks.   The 3 or 4 builders that had completed both RV-7s and RV-8s  were surprised that the instructions to build the RV-10 wing were just to clamp to the work bench.  

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orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Cradle here.

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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
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speckter(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:47 am Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

No Jig is needed and the wing is dead on because of the prepunch holes.  

   

Gary  

40274  

         

  

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I can’t offer an opinion on this one quite yet, since I’ll just be putting on the top skins in the next week or so.  

   

I just had the local EAA chapter over to visit my project.  One of the questions I was asked was why the RV-10 didn’t require the use of a wing jig.  Anyone know the answer?     

   

It appears to for the other RV models, building a wing jig and getting everything straight was one of their more frustrating tasks.   The 3 or 4 builders that had completed both RV-7s and RV-8s  were surprised that the instructions to build the RV-10 wing were just to clamp to the work bench.   	  Quote: 	
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drfred(at)suddenlinkmail.
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:47 am Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Bob:



We don't need a jig because of the matched holes and the accuracy of 

placement on the parts. When they all line up, the wing is straight. 

Probably _better_ than any jig we could build at home.



Fred Williams

Bob Leffler wrote:

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 I can’t offer an opinion on this one quite yet, since I’ll just be 

 putting on the top skins in the next week or so.



 I just had the local EAA chapter over to visit my project. One of the 

 questions I was asked was why the RV-10 didn’t require the use of a 

 wing jig. Anyone know the answer?



 It appears to for the other RV models, building a wing jig and getting 

 everything straight was one of their more frustrating tasks. The 3 or 

 4 builders that had completed both RV-7s and RV-8s were surprised that 

 the instructions to build the RV-10 wing were just to clamp to the 

 work bench.



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rv10(at)sinkrate.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins

Bruce,  

   

My wife and I did them on the table.  The first one took forever but the second one we did in about half a Saturday.  We attribute the difference in speed to getting a tungsten bucking bar.  You can borrow mine if you want.  I will gladly come help you out with a few days advanced warning.  I also have a couple different sets that work great around the flap attach brackets.  

   

Some things to think about…  

   

<![if !supportLists]>1)       <![endif]>Have you planned your pitot location and tubing and wiring and if you use the gretz where you are going to mount the circuit board?  

<![if !supportLists]>2)       <![endif]>Have you run conduit for wiring up lights?  

<![if !supportLists]>3)       <![endif]>Have you run tubing for the AOA ports (if your using AFS’s AOA)?  

<![if !supportLists]>4)       <![endif]>Have you built your control rod tubing yet and fit it?  

   

Ben Westfall  

#40579  

PDX  

         

  

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 Subject: Rivetting Bottom Skins  

  

     

For those that have completed the rivetting of the bottom skins of the wings, did you leave the wings in the cradle? or, did you do as the plans say (page 20-5, step 2) and lay them on the table?  

    

   

    

Bruce  

    

40018 Wings  

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